Re: A Librarian's Perspective on Medieval Genealogy

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:12:00 -0800, wjhonson <wjhonson@xxxxxxx> wrote
in soc.genealogy.medieval:

And if you want to double-check the actual primaries, there is a even
more massive project, I've forgotten the name, publishing every single
instance of every single name on every single document in existence in
Quebec up to I think 1760. The public library in Montreal has this
work and I think it's over 30 volumes, each the size of an
encyclopedia volume more or less. It's really an amazing work.

The PRDH is the organism that made this database. It didn't
publish data in any document but only in catholic church records,
census and a few other papers (some, far from all marriage
contracts, some immigration lists). I think there is one
protestant record (baptism of Ernst Lippe).

The results were published in some releases.

- A first series (7 volumes) with records before 1700. Drawback:
they put the area instead of place of origin, i.e. south of
France, rural instead of Marseille.
- A second series, also printer, 47 volumes, with the complete
place of origine, 1621-1765.
- A first release on 2 CD-ROMs, covering 1621-1765 and 1766-1799.
The 2nd part had witnesses only when there was a relationship
(not sure if they had always or sometimes witnesses of the
same family name). Each part was independant.
- A second release on 1 CD-ROM, all in one. Same data but updated.
Those CD-ROMs are limited to Windows environment.
- The same thing on their web site www.genealogy.umontreal.ca

A sample :

Marriage 1676-01-12 Montréal
1) Andre JARED BEAUREGARD
o:roye, diocese de vienne, dauphine (origin)
r:verchere (residing)
Epoux de 2 (spouse of 2)
s:NON (didn't sign)
C P M (single, present, male)
2) Marguerite ANTIOME
o:st-nicolas-des-champs, paris
r:c.p.
Epouse de 1
s:OUI
C P F
3) Jean JARED
Pere de 1 (father of 1)
Epoux de 4
M D M (married, dead, male)
4) Pierrette SERMETTE
Mere de 1
Epouse de 3
- - F (not said if married, not said if alive)
5) Michel ANTIOME
p:exempt du grand prevot
Pere de 2
Epoux de 6
M - M (married, not said if alive)
etc. (17 persons in all)

It would be quite interesting to see the same kind of database
with all **primary** data, i.e. seeing that John was son of Charles
in a sale dated 1.2.1523 or that Charles was married to Charlotte
in a will dated 4.5.1534, not the result of merging sources.

Then, a second work was published, DGQA, which is a replacement to
the Tanguay and Jetté dictionaries. Major drawback (for us) : the
medieval data was completely ignored (while Jetté had no royal
line in his work, he had some in his treaty and when I wrote the
complement to his dictionnary, I copied some of them, all being
now available from my web site without the exact reference which
is only in my CD-ROM version). The DGQA is limited to Quebec but
had some foreign dates. It is available as a Windows CD-ROM and
on the PRDH web site.

A third work is available only on their web site, a dictionary of
married couples until 1799, linked together.

If one had to build a similar database, the question is likely
"How to handle works like Pere Anselme or D'Hozier, which are
based on original records but give very texts of these records).

Another fascinating database is available in some library (no
web version and no possibility of purchasing it). Parchemin has
a summary of all Quebec notary records from 1621 to 1784 (at this
time, but they usually add 5 years each 2 years). Parchemin is
available from Archiv-Histo which also produces the series Chronica
and Themis, which are about justice records. Again, this is
the kind of tool that could be very useful if it was covering
the medieval times.


Denis

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