Re: Peck pedigree: 1400-1600: Ancestors of Robert Peck of Beccles

Indeed. I think you might be right on all accounts. It is curious that the brother and son of
that
brother of Alice Middleton, and William Thwaites, of the related families, was the ONE who did in
fact
make marriage arrangements for Pecks after the death of Alice's husband Richard. Remember that
Alice apparently died soon after 1491 and clearly before Richard her widow died in 1516 he had
remarried the sister of his son's wife (I am NOT making this up!). It is hard keeping those
Anne's
sister straight :)

Certainly, we are not done yet on discoveries in that area of the inheritance of the Middletons
into the
Peck line, nor the Annes, as it appears the Pecks at that time and place, even in Wakefield, were
not as
flush in the pocket as the Middletons who clearly had a few Sirs and Ladies in their ranks over
several
generations. I do not know that much about the Anne families, as of yet.

As to the properties to analyze: I am in a wait-and-see mode. Bear with me, Will. I think it is
premature
at this point inasmuch as there is much fodder yet in the authors transcripts, et al., in the
serialization
articles in the 1930s in the NEHGSR. Also: it may turn out that John is the father of Robert Peck
of Beccles,
and the British Museum pedigree of Pecks might NOT ALL be suspect. After all, it clearly predates
the 1930s
folderol, accomplished by none other than the same gents responsible for the Visitations. No
doubt the
Visitations are subject to scrutiny, and I now assert, so does the pedigree of Pecks deserve more
scrutiny,
at least as to how it "confounds or clarifies"(to quote yourself!) the pedigree segment under
scrutiny. Keep
in mind that the British Museum pedigree rest on the Tonge's Visitation of 1530 and the 1563-64,
encompassing this vital segment of the Peck pedigree. Also, note that Bill Arnold did not propose
this
Peck pedigree, but it was SANCTIONED by the College of Heralds in 1620!

I am more and more inclined to wonder deeply about "neve" as it was used by John Leeke in his
will?
I am surprised no Latin scholar has chimed in? Where are they? If we accept the original
interpretation
of the authors of the Latin "neve" of John Leeke's in his will, then it would mean that Robert
Peck of
Beccles was his nephew, and that is HUGE inasmuch as it clarifies the British Museum pedigree,
because
he would then be a son of John Peck and his two of his sibling brothers accordingly had married
daughters
of Leeke/Leake/Leyke/L(no e)ake.

Bill

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--- WJhonson <wjhonson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

<<In a message dated 10/26/07 05:08:55 Pacific Daylight Time, billarnoldfla@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I will raise the ante. Assuming (a big assumption) that these two or three generations in the
16th century TOLD THE TRUTH and dealt with English customs (or laws: I will let you, and
gen-medieval experts rule!) correctly, then that would be the case. But what if: Robert Peck
of Beccles were the illegitimate or legitimate son of John Peck of Wakefield by an earlier wife
and confirms the British Museum pedigree of Pecks? >>
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Illegitimate is a possibility. But another one, which you raised obliquely would be, what if
Robert Peck, later of Beccles, were a son by an earlier wife and John the heir, was not in fact
the heir of his *father*, but rather the heir of his *mother*. That would explain why he'd
inherit to the exclusion of Robert. I.E. the property was John's mother's property and so
passed to him, as her heir.

However, like I mentioned before, You really need to *start* with a list of the properties named
in the various wills, IPM, etc. So start with that.

Will Johnson

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