Re: Zaida (& Isabel, Jimena and the others)

On Sep 22, 11:29 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Dear Todd,

I have applied (I hope) all your corrections. But now you have made me
curious about the children as well.
Yes I have that Lara son for Sancha. In my own computer he is already
disconnected and his file is ready to be used again.

The daughters usually asigned him were actually daughters of Rodrigo
Fernandez de Toron~o.

Alfonso VI 'the Brave', King of Castile 1072-1109, King of Leon 1065-1109

married (1) 1069, divorced 1077 Agnes de Poitou, was she really born about
1059? died 1080, daughter of Guillaume VI-VIII de Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine,
and Mathilde de La Marche

Agnes either either died as wife and queen before the marriage to
Constance, or else she was divorced and married Helias of Maine 30
years later. There is no reason to hypothesize a divorce if you are
then going to kill her off immedietely.

married (2) before 9 May 1080 Constance de Bourgogne, widow of Hugues II,
comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, born about 1046, died after 2 September 1093, but
before 25 October 1093, daughter of Robert I, Duke of Burgundy, and Helie de
Semur-en-Brionnais
married (3) about 28 April 1095 Bertha, died before 15 January 1100
married (4) Zaida "of Seville" (Isabel/Elizabeth), widow of Fath al-Mamun,
she died in 1103 and is buried in San Isidore de Leon

She was still living in 1107. As to her burial, it is not clear that
any of the reputed tombs are authentic.

married (5) Beatrice (she came from France) DID SHE ALSO DIE IN 1110? Is she
the one who married Helias de Maine?

Only known as wife of Alfonso, and since he died first, we don't have
the slightest idea about her fate. It has been speculated that Orderic
may have confused the dtails and that it was Alfonso's widow Beatrice
who married Helias, but there are other alternatives.

A most important mistress (a) Jimena Nunez

Jimena Mun~oz. (As has been explained, these were distinct names at
the time, but confused by later historians.)

Children :
(by Jimena Nunez)
1. Teresa of Castile and Leon, born 1070, died 1 November 1130, she married
in 1093 Henri, Count of Portugal and they founded the Portuguese Royal
family, she also had an affaire with Fernando Peres de Trava
(by Jimena Nunez)
2.Elvira of Castile, married (1) Raimond V, Count of Toulouse, (2) Fernando
Fernandez

Actually Alfonso's eldest - older than Teresa

by her first husband she had one son
1.Alfonse Jourdain, Count of Toulouse, Duke of Narbonne, born 1102,
murdered 16 April 1148 Casesarea

by second husband:

Diego Fernandez
Garcia Fernandez
Teresa Fernandez, m. count Osorio Martinez - ancestors of the Osorio
family and of the oft-mentioned Sancha de Ayala




(by 2nd wife Constance de Bourgogne)
3. Uracca, Queen of Castile and Leon 1109-1126
born 1082, died 4 March 1126 Saldana,
married (1) ca.1095 Raymond Count of Burgundy (2) Alfonso VI King of
Aragon (3) Pedro Gonzalez de Lara

never married Pedro

For her I have only one child by her first husband: Alfonso VII King of
Castile and Leon
(the last three by Zaida/Isabel/Elisabeth)

Alfonso had an older sister Sancha, who never married

By Pedro she had at least one child, but I don't recall if there were
others.
Fernan Perez de Lara

4.Sancho born 1093 (?) died May 1108 Ucles (in battle)

This birth date is based on a combination of when Zaida's husband
died, and the belief that he was acceptable as heir because he was not
born out of adultery (just fornication), i.e. - he was conceived when
Alfonso was between Constance and Bertha, plus his later chronology.

6.Sancha of Castile, was she married to Rodrigo Gonzalez de Lara, Count of
Lara.

count, and "of Lara", but not Count of Lara. At this time in the Leon-
Castile-Toledo kingdom, with a few exceptions, count was a rank
disassociated from any particular place. Sancha was his second wife.

children:
Pedro Rodriguez de Lara, priest
Elvira Rodriguez de Lara, m. as second wife, Ermengol VI, Count of
Urgel

taf

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