Re: Our Troll Problem

This story would be much better if you two pogues used the image of a
princess with a pea under her mattress.

DSH

"Peter Stewart" <p_m_stewart@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Richard Smyth at Road Runner" <smyth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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[I had written:]

He doesn't understand the difference between a medium of pain (the
nerves)
and its cause (a pin),

I do not know of any sense of the word "medium" in which the nerves are
a medium of pain; the term suggests that Stewart thinks that the pain
travels
along or through the nerves from its origin with the pin which is its
solitary
cause (according to his theory).

Of course not - it is stimulus that the nerves convey, as a medium, from
the cause (sitting on a pin) to the receptor (a functioning brain). The
experience of this accident, the cause, is manifested in a normal organism
as pain. To insist that the product is the cause is like saying that
Charlie Chaplin's acting in _Modern Times_ was the cause of the screenplay
for that movie.

However, since Peter mention the nerves perhaps, his theory being that
the solitary cause of the pain that is experienced is the pin, he would
care
to explain what characteristics of the signal to the brain are the basis
for the
perception of the location of the pain. Unless he is familiar with von
Bekesy's work and its sequel, I daresay he does not know the answer to
that question.

Appeals to authority won't help you out: it is a bogus question. I said
that _sitting on the pin_ was the sole, proximate cause of the pain. A
synaesthesiac might experience it as a sound or a smell more than a sharp
twinge, but that only menas that contributory factors to the sensation are
acting differently. A paraplegic or diabet migth not feel anthing at all,
but then might develop an infection later that was far more serious than
the original cause: that is why the healthy body has evolved to feel and
locate the source, the cause, of such injuries. This is SO tedious and
unnecessary to have to waste time on.

But, of course, what I really want to hear from him is the evidence that
his
troll postings can have desirable effects. That is the real issue that
divides us
and that should concern the list.

And I have been referring to this evidence from the start: look at the
posting profile.

Hines says that he absented huimself from SGM because he had become bored
with this forum after obtaining all that he wanted for his own ancestor
study - patent bunkum, he had been blathering here about subjects other
than genealogy for years - and that he had other priorities for his time.
However, look at the data for his presence on Internet newsgroups:

In April 2007 Hines made 1,950 posts altogether, but only 2 of these were
posted to SGM (these numbers must include multiples from crosspostings, I
assume); n May he made 2,893 posts but only 28 to SGM; in June he made
1,563 posts, but only 5 to SGM; in July 463 posts but only 2 to SGM; and
then in August when he felt emboldened to try his chances here again with
his Plantagenet piece he made 1,611 posts altogether of which 283 have
lobbed into SGM.

Now account for THAT except by admitting that Hines felt enough discomfort
from his past experience here to stay away for a time.

Peter Stewart


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