Re: Lady Godiva

Wednesday, 15 August, 2007


Dear Will, Leo, Todd, Terry, et al.,

In the listing provided in Domesday Book (1086) of the lands
of the Church of Coventry, in Stanley Hundred, there is a
description of the land of Binley. The text states in part,
"Aldgid, the wife of Grifin, held this land. The Abbey bought it
of Osbern the son of Richard " [1].

As I recall, it has been reasonably established that Osbern
was the husband of Nest, daughter of 'Grifin' (or rather, Gruffydd
ap Llywelyn). Unless the land of Ealdgyth in Binley were taken by
the (Norman) crown after 1066 and subsequently given to Osbern
fitz Richard, it would have presumably gone to Ealdgyth's heir.
She had no known issue by Harold II: the logical inference here
would be, Nest (wife of Osbern) was the daughter of Gruffydd ap
Llywelyn, by Ealdgyth, his known wife.

Chronologically, these generations appear to provide no
problem. Assuming Nest, daughter of Gruffydd (evidently by
Ealdgyth) was born say 1060, and married to Osbern fitz Richard
say 1075-1080, the gift of part of her lands in or before 1086
(possibly after her death - ?) by Osbern to the Abbey would
surely work. Nest, daughter of Osbern fitz Richard by his wife
Nest, born say 1075-1085 (as well as her siblings Hugh and
Cecilia), could well have then been married to Bernard de
Neufmarche and producing issue (at least a daughter Sibyl) say
1095-1105.

Cheers,

John *



NOTES

[1] William Reades, trans. Domesday Book, for the County of
Warwick (Coventry: W. Reader, 1835), p. 14:

' Ipsa eccl'a ten' BILVEIE. Ibi sunt iii hidae
T'ra e' viii car'. In d'nio e' una car' et iiii serui et x uill'i et
vi
bord' eu' v car'. Ibi viii ac' p'ti. Silua dimid' leu'u l'g' et una
q'rent' lat'. T. R. E. et modo ual' LX solid'.
Hanc tra' tenuit. Aldgid uxor Grifin. Hanc abb' emit ab 0' filio
Ricardi.
Ipsa eccl'a ten' in CONDONE iii virg' t'rae. T'ra e' ii car'.
Ibi sunt iiii uill'i et vi bord' eu' ii car' et i fiemo. Silua iii
q'r'
et xxx p'tic' l'g' et iii q'rent' lat'. Valuit et ual' xx solid'.'


This can be found online courtesy of Googlebooks:

http://books.google.com/books?id=zQMIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA14&dq=aldgid+uxor&ei=eJfDRrfqKIb07gKp8_XTDw&ie=ISO-8859-1




* John P. Ravilious






On Aug 15, 8:11?pm, WJhonson <wjhon...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
<<In a message dated 08/15/07 17:04:19 Pacific Standard Time, WJhonson writes:
You will be enlightened to know that this source is *also* online herehttp://books.google.com/books?id=gWUNAAAAIAAJ

"The History of the Norman Conquest of England: Its Causes and its Results", by Edward Augustus Freeman >>
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Will excellent find, but may I slightly correct you, the above link is only *one* of the volumes.

Freeman, an "exceedingly boring individual at cocktail parties", wrote his History over many volumes. Many.... Many.
At any rate see herehttp://books.google.com/books?q=editions:0sT52LcaIY_XYHZJ64TWlXJ&id=5...

Will Johnson


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