Re: Death of Edward II

Before I communicated with Dr. Ian Mortimer I suspected the same, but no he told me he is not a dsescendant. It seems accepted that _those_ Mortimers in the male line are extinct anyway. For him it is perhaps an unfortunate situation to have the same surname.

I don't think he sees it as letting someone off the hook, I think he is trying to let facts, as he reports them, speak for themselves.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Death of Edward II


Does Ian Mortimer trace his ancestry to Roger de Mortimer, 1st Earl of March?

Is he trying to get said ancestor off the hook for the murder of Edward II?

Those are the operative questions to ask.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

"Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dear Brice,

On genealogics I have included Dr. Ian Mortimer's opinion in the biography
of Edward II. I don't think it is frivolous and at least should be
acknowledged.

I do not have access to Paul Doherty's work
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Clagett, Brice" <bclagett@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: Death of Edward II

Ian Mortimer continues to elaborate his view that King Edward II was not

killed at Berkeley Castle but survived for many years thereafter. See
The Greatest Traitor (2003); "The Death of Edward II in Berkeley
Castle,"

HER 120:1175 (2005); The Perfect King (2006). He is not alone in this
view. See Paul Doherty, Isabella and the Strange Death of Edward II
(2003).

Is any one writing on the other side? I have seen nothing.



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