Re: C.P. Correction: Elizabeth le Despenser, wife of Sir Ralph de Camoys, Lor...

In a message dated 12/29/06 9:46:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
leovdpas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< There is a puzzle in this, ------upon Ralph and his wife Elizabeth, and
their son Ralph.
Am I confused? I cannot find a father and son both Ralph. >>

The only possible interpretation, preserving the rest of the family intact,
in my view is that it must be
Sir Ralph de Camoys by his wife Elizabeth le Despencer had a son
Ralph de Camoys who was born by 1324

The problem then is the grandson John.
If we could change "their grandson John" into "his [Ralph's] grandson John"
then we could allow this to be
John de Camoys [later] of Linford, Norfolk

but that doesn't work either since he wasn't born by 1324, in fact his
father himself was still a boy

Even if we suppose that there was an otherwise unknown John, son of the heir
Thomas we still have to push back several other people to make it fit
chronologically.

Finally it's possible this website is mistaken in citing the document as
coming in 1324.
I'm leaning toward that last possibility as I've already narrowed Elizabeth
le Despencer's birthrange to within a few years, and I really don't want to add
another three children to Thomas (d 1372) who had themselves to be born BY
1324. That seems almost impossible at this point.

Will Johnson
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