Re: Robert de Lathom 1254-1302 m. Katherine de Knowseligh 1261-?



Thanks, HS, for this information. It was very useful in helping me
straighten out a couple of the knots in my tree.

I didn't know about the middle names. This is good to know. I wonder
where the original author got the information. (Source is Gregson, The
Antiquites of Lancaster, 1869 -- imported with the other information.)

Thanks again,
Rebecca

Sutliff wrote:
This needs to be pruned quite a bit. As it was not customary until perhaps
the 17th century for individuals to have middle names, you should
automatically be suspicious of any pedigree which includes middle names for
children as below.

Robert de Lathom d. abt 2 March 1325 and his wife Katherine Knowsley d. aft
1345 had 3 sons (Thomas, Hugh and Philip) and 1 daughter (Joan) for which
there is documentation. See VCH Lancs.

As to your second question Sir Thomas de Lathom d. bef 20 Mar 1382, grandson
of the above, was married once only and to Joan de Venables. Her affair with
(her future second husband) Roger Fazarkerley (she married thirdly Sir
Nicholas Harrington) was openly scandalous at the time of Thomas' death.
They had two sons Edward and Thomas and four daughters: Isabel, Cecily,
Katherine and Margaret. It was the son Thomas who was married to Isabel
Pilkington. This Thomas died a year after his father leaving a daughter
Ellen who was born pothumously and died at seven years old. Isabel
Pilkington was mother of Sir Richard Dalton from her second marriage to Sir
John Dalton.

Hope this helps.

HS

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