RE: Major new online resource: "Medieval Lands"
- From: cjones28@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Carl H. Jones")
- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:31:59 +0000 (UTC)
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From: Stewart Baldwin [mailto:sbaldw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:37 AM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Major new online resource: "Medieval Lands"
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After looking at some of the places where the above project overlaps
my own work (which is quite a bit), I would give the site mixed
reviews based on what I have seen so far. Although it is clear that
there is much useful material on the website, I think that that much
more care than what we see now is going to be required if the site is
to live up to its stated ambitions.
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Now, I would expect that items pointed out in such an introduction
would be ones on which a reasonable amount of thoroughness and care
had been exercised, but that is clearly not the case with one of the
above items, the supposed wife of Guy I de Mâcon. The "solution"
given is that Guy is married off to the sister of his grandmother
Gerberge, which results from confusing Guy's son Otto with Guy's
father Otte-Guillaume (making both Guy's wife and his paternal
grandmother Gerberge daughters of Lambert of Chalon).
As for the others, I am not familiar with the Hungarian case, but I do
recall that Todd Farmerie has mentioned the problem with Æthelberht of
Wessex in this newsgroup before.
As for Emma's parentage, it can be found in Annales Xantenses, MGH SS
2: 225: "Anno 827. ..., et Ludewicus rex accepit in coniugum sororem
Iudith imperatricis."
I also noticed a tendancy to use late sources which make some of the
accounts very unreliable in places. Two clear examples are the
treatment of origin legends for Anjou (Tertulle, etc.) and Flanders
(Lideric, etc.) as if they might be historical, using late sources
which contradict earlier, more reliable sources. Also, there are very
serious problems with the early Scandinavian lines, using sources like
Heimskringla and even Saxo(!) as sources for periods much earlier than
they can be seriously considered as reliable. The account of the
early Danish kings, which has been built using ES's awful "Haithabu"
chart as the framework, is a complete mess.
The plan seems to have been to start with ES (and perhaps some other
secondary sources) as a start, and then to insert various
documentation as it was found (often from other secondary sources).
The result is that it is often not clear whether or not sufficient
documentation has yet been added, sometimes making the reliability of
a randomly chosen account difficult to decide without checking the
sources given.
Stewart Baldwin
Stewart,
Since this work overlaps your own (as you mention in the above quote), and
since apparently both you and Charles Cawley wish this work to be accurate,
and since the work is so monumental in scope and historical significance,
why not offer to assist Mr. Cawley in this undertaking??
This should insure a work that can be a cornerstone for genealogical
research for years, if not decades, to come.
.
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