Fw: Anglo-Saxon kings in England
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- Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 04:15:10 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Anglo-Saxon kings in England
On Sat, 27 May 2006 22:06:39 +0000 (UTC), FordMommaerts@xxxxxxx ("Ford
Mommaerts-Browne") wrote:
I don't know whence Mardi got her suggestion, buthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo-Saxon-Genealogy/files.
I suspect that is may be from the ¶ under Fig. 2,
'Rulers of Kent', on p. 409, of my aforementioned
article in _Foundations_, I:6. I did not name her;
and I suggested that she married Eoppa, Ingilding.
I opposed this to Dave Kelley's suggestion of a
marriage of Æþelbeorht II's daughter to Eahlmund
Eaffing. I touched on the supposition that
Sigebeorht, King of Wessex, 756-757, was the brother
of Sigeread, King of Kent, 759-763; (both being sons
of Eoppa Ingilding, and brothers of Eaffa Eopping).
Thus this would, I pointed out, explain the apparent
earlier link 'twixt Kent & Wessex than would be the
case with the later union.
Ingild 'Conrading', I should suggest, wed an East
Saxon princess, probably daughter of K. Sæbbi, thus
explaing the East Saxon names of the royal brothers.
This, I suggest, is only one way in which the East
Saxon dynasty, the Æscwingas, continued beyond the
amalgam of their kingdom into the greater Anglo-Saxon
polity. For others, one could see the suggestions in
my article, or go to
According to John ["Florence"] of Worcester, king Sigeberht of Wessex
was the son of a certain Sigeric. Sigeberht also had a brother named
Cyneheard [same source]. Since Sigeberht and his father both had
names that also appear among the East Saxon kings, and Cyneheard
appears to be a West Saxon name (the prefix Cyne- being common in that
family), it seems more likely that Sigeberht's father was an East
Saxon, and that his mother was a member of the West Saxon dynasty. I
see no reason to reject the evidence of John of Worcester (who was
using a version of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle no longer available to
us) and make Sigeberht a son of Eoppa.
Stewart Baldwin
I am not rejecting John. This is news to me, (and I am not a little puzzled as to how I missed it, and miffed that I did).
Your reconstruction certainly makes sense. I shall have to reconsider all of this, and, undoubtedly, change the geneagraphy that I constructed. Three (3) of them, actually. Well, I keep pointing out that that is why I drew them, and share them.
Thanks for bringing this titbit to my/our attention.
Sincerely,
Ford
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