Re: Curious

On 15 May 2006 20:07:47 -0700, "John P. Ravilious" <therav3@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

Pierre Riche, in his The Carolingians (trans. Michael I.
Allen), provided some fleshing-out of Berengar II's career.
I can't find my copy at present ("Not on Shelf" as they say at
the LOC), but the 5 generation pedigree below provides what
details I have at present re: Berengar II's paternal ancestry
(to his grandfather Anscar anyway), and his grandchildren.

[snip]

A few minor comments appear below.

1.1a.1.2a.1a Baldwin IV of Flanders*
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....
Spouse: Ogiva of Luxembourg
Death: 21 Feb 1036[7],[11]
Father: Frederick of Luxembourg (-1019)
Mother: Gerberga of Kinziggau (->0985)
Marr: ca 1012[11],[7]

The is no good evidence regarding the name of Frederick's wife, a
daughter of count Heribert of Kinziggau. It is evidently a guess
based on no more than the fact that she had a grandmother named
Gerberga.

1.1a.1.2a.1b Baldwin IV of Flanders* (See above)
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Spouse: Elena of Normandy
Father: Richard II of Normandy (0978-1026)
Mother: Judith of Rennes (-1017)

The same is true for Baldwin IV's second (Norman) wife. Her name is
not given in any of the early sources.

1.1a.1.2b Rosala (Susanna) of Ivrea* (See above)
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Spouse: Robert II of France
Birth: 27 Mar 0972
Death: 20 Jul 1031
Father: Hugh 'Capet' of France (ca0941-0996)
Mother: Adela of Aquitaine (ca0950-1004)

The "of Aquitaine" part is not at all clear.

Stewart Baldwin

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