RE: Most recent common ancestors

Hi Leo!
I agreed whit you. It could be difficult to mention one royal or noble
who does not have any commoners as ancestor.... But I think the
discussion here is the opposite: exists trillions of living commoners
WHIT royal or noble ancestor...? Very different assert don't think?

One more thing to think it over: when a male royal or noble, marry a
commoner, his sons and daughters keep the royal or noble surname and,
indeed, will be considered in most cases (in recent times, at least) as
noble. The opposite if is a female noble that marry a commoner. So, this
immediately cut 50 por cent of (possibly) inter class marriages...


-----Original Message-----
From: Leo van de Pas [mailto:leovdpas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:38 PM
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors


I would like to ask a different kind of question, can you mention one
royal
or noble who does not have any commoners as ancestor? I would love to
know. Leo

----- Original Message -----
From: "MLS" <cannalonga@xxxxxxxx>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: Most recent common ancestors


> Ok, but you made a "loop" on my previous assert: It is most possible
> that today Queens or King or simple nobles have some commoner
> ancestors in there tree .... instead of the opposite!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WJhonson@xxxxxxx [mailto:WJhonson@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:07 PM
> To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Most recent common ancestors
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/06 1:04:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> cannalonga@xxxxxxxx writes:
>
> << As I already wrote, some possibility of inter-class marriages
> exist. But, I'm sorry, I can't see in the History so many example
> like this...
>>>
>
> It's not a *possibility*, is a quite frequent event.
> So frequent in fact, that most lines, taken in one direction,
> peter-out pretty quickly. We *just* had an example posted where Queen
> Elizabeth herself has this problem in a very short time period. She
> had commoner ancestors as well as royal
> ones. How do you explain this?
> Choose any royal person you like and look at their ancestors 6
> generations before. I'd say in the majority of cases, at least one
was
> a commoner. Or
> at best, has a suspicious and probably spurious link backward.
>
> Will Johnson
>
>
>
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