Re: Hubert de Burgh's alleged Pouchard ancestry

Will Johnson wrote:
> No one, me included, is arguing that Blomefield was correct. However I
> think the situation is a little more complex than you are describing. I
need to
> go back through and collect more primary documents, but I have a feeling
> these three Alice's are all related... to each other. It's just a hunch
right
> now. Unless someone has some specifics that could solve it all.


Presumably there's a 50-50 chance that Hubert's mother Alice is related
_somehow_ to Alice Pouchard/Punchard - assuming he was a full brother of
Geoffrey, the "nepos" of the latter Alice.

But I'd be more sceptical about fitting Alice the mother-in-law of Reyner de
Burgh into the picture. It looks to me as though Blomefield thought along
these lines: (1) For some reason he thought Hubert was son of Reyner de
Burgh; (2) He knew Reyner's wife was a daughter of Alice, the daughter of
Fulk d'Oiry; (3) He knew Hubert's brother Geoffrey was "nepos" of Alice the
daughter of John Pouchard/Punchard. Therefore, assuming "nepos" meant
"nephew", he deduced that Reyner's wife must also have been a daughter of
John Pouchard/Punchard, so her mother Alice the daughter of Fulk d'Oiry must
have been John's wife.

Given that (1) is incorrect, I don't see any reason to think that Reyner de
Burgh's mother-in-law Alice is related to the other Alices - Hubert de
Burgh's mother and Geoffrey de Burgh's female blood relation (presumably).

Chris Phillips



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