Re: C.P. Addition: Parentage of Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent


Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Dear CED ~
>
> This URL should work for you:
>
> http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659
>
> If not, you can find the Latin text by Dugdale by going through the
> home page which is:
>
> http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/
>
> To say that the Creake Abbey document has no value is a bit harsh I
> think, CED. Especially since the authoriative Complete Peerage quotes
> from it.

To the Newsgroup:

Richardson is ignoring the fundamental question: who wrote the
foundation history and when was it written? Foundation histories, by
definition, are just that: histories, written sometime after the deeds
described. Foundation histories are not primary evidence. They are
secondary sources having value only as to who writes them, when they
were written, and for what purpose they were written. It up to
Richardson to show us the value of this foundation history.

By the way, since we do not know the name (or holding) of the father of
either Hubert de Burgh or of Bishop Geoffrey, it is possible that the
aunt (or some other relation) of Geoffrey was not the aunt (or some
other relation) of his more famous brother, Hubert.

Moreover, there is evidence that Alice was the name of Hubert's mother
(shown by Ellis, p. 191). Properly read, Ellis has shown that there
were two Alice's: one the mother of Bishop Geoffrey, the other an aunt,
great aunt, grandmother, or some other relation. Richardson has given
us nothing of value otherwise.

CED

The burden is on Richardson to prove his assertions. So far he has not
carries the burden of proof.

CED

>
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> Website: www.royalancestry.net

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