Re: STRADLING

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<PMeazey@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:80.35c9ab4b.30e6fa28@xxxxxxxxxx
> The description of the paintings was of course from the T.C.Evans
> manuscript
> - sorry, I should have made this clear. Below is the descent from Sir
> Peter
> Stradling from the same source. Full transcript of the document available
> as a
> windows.doc file to anyone who wants a copy - contact me off-list.
>
> "1. Sir Peter Stradling married Joanna, daughter and heiress of Sir Thomas
> Hawey, knight, and had with her besides the manor of St Donats, two manors
> in
> Somersetshire and one in Dorsetshire.

In Glamorganshire Pedigrees she is listed as Julian, daughter of Sir Thomas
Harvey of Comb-Harvey, Somerset

>
> 2. Sir Edward (1) Stradling, the first of that name, quartered the arms of
> Hawey with those of the Stradlings. He married Eleanor, daughter and
> heiress of
> Gilbert Strongbow, knight, of Caldicot castle, Monmouthshire. With her Sir
> Edward had two manors in Oxfordshire. (He did homage in 1314 for Compton
> Hawey to
> the Abbot of Sherborne)
>
> 3. Sir Edward (2) Stradling (1344-69), second of the name, son of the
> foregoing, married Gwenllian, one of the sisters and heiress of Sir
> Lawrence
> Berkrolles, knight, of New Castle, St Athans, otherwise the castle of East
> Orchard.
> Their son was -

Sir Lawrence Berkerolles died in 1411. I do not have a death date for
Gwenllian, but her husband d. aft. 1367 was already deceased and her son d.
bet. 1400 and 1412 may also have been dead. I wonder if this statement is
actually referring to Gwenllian's mother Catherine de Turberville who was
one of the four heiresses of their father Sir Payn III de Turberville of
Coity, Glamorganshire. Lawrence d.s.p. but his heirs would likley have been
descendants of any sisters rather than the sisters themselves if they were
already deceased. Also Lawrence's wife Ismania, daughter of Stephen de
Hanham died in September 1420. Lawrence was her third husband.
>
> 4. Sir William Stradling, knight, (1390) who married Isabell daughter and
> heiress of Sir John Burt, knight. It is melancholy to add that he received
> with
> her, albeit that she was an heiress, no fortune, for as the chronicler
> goes on
> to explain "the estates of that family were entailed on male issue". This
> is
> the first Stradling to whom the genealogist condescends to give a date to
> any
> of his actions. Sir William journeyed to Jerusalem we are told in the
> reign of
> Richard II and received knighthood according to the forms and order of the
> Holy Sepulchre; which act took place "about" the year of Christ 1380. His
> son was
> -

Isabel, wife of William is usually given as Isabel de St. Barbe of South
Brent, Som.

>
> 5. Sir Edward (3) Stradling the third. He was a personage of considerable
> pretensions: he quartered the arms of St Burt in the right of his wife;
> then
> those of the Berkerolles (whose heir he became in 1412) and with them the
> arms of
> Turberville and Iestyn ab Gurgan. He married Jane daughter of Henry
> Beaufort,
> who became a cardinal. This lady was descended on the mother's side from
> the
> Arundel family. Sir Edward like his father and Grandfather made a journey
> to
> Jerusalem to receive knighthood. (Was this a cheap and easy way of being
> dubbed?
> It is singular that we hear nothing of any of these valiant knights using
> their prowess in the tented field) Sir John Stradling a brother of this
> Sir
> Edward married the daughter and heiress of one Dauncey, in Somersetshire
> (?Wiltshire) and had two sons from whom are numerous descendants. Sir
> Edward's son was,

The brother John was husband of Joan Dauntsey of Dauntsey, Wilts, daughter
of John Dauntsey d. 1405 and his wife Elizabeth Beverley d. 1395 of Hitchin,
Hertfordshire (daughter of John Beverley and Amy de Buxhall). There is a lot
in the archives about the Dauntsey Stradlings. Seems to me we discussed them
the last time about 2002 or 2003. I think that we discussed them earlier as
well around 1998 or 1999.
>
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