Re: Gospatric Fitz Orm's More info

WJhonson@xxxxxxx schrieb:

> In a message dated 11/28/05 8:36:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> butlergrt@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> << Gospatric 1st Earl of Northumberlands dau. Ethelreda married Duncan II
> whose son William fitzDuncan of Skipton and Earl of Moray mar. Alice
> Meschines dau of William Meschines of Copeland >>
>
> "Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe", Jiri Louda and Michael Maclagan;
> Clarkson N Potter, New York 1981
> states that he married Gruaidh and had
> 1) Donald /MacWilliam/ d 1187 in battle
> 2) Gospatrick, Lord of /Airton/
> 3) William, Lord of /Egremont/
>
> Was he married more than once? What primary reference shows this?

Louda & Maclagan is not infallible. Other sources differ (sorry, I
have nothing primary to hand). Weir's Royal Families has:

1. Duncan II (c1060-1094) married c1090 Ethelreda; issue:
2. William Fitz Duncan (d c1154) married Alice, Lady of Skipton
(heiress); issue:
3. William MacWilliam, Lord of Egremont (d after 1155) married Gruaidh
of Moray; issue:
4a. Donald MacWilliam (d 1187)
4b. Gospatric MacWilliam (d before 1208)

However, Leo shows William FitzDuncan marrying both Gruaidh and Alice
[quoting Paget and Ancestral Roots].

Any primary sources out there, or are we left with a tussle between
pygmies?

MAR

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