Re: Gospatric Fitz Orm's mother, Gravelda of Dunbar

In a message dated 11/28/05 1:06:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
royalancestry@xxxxxxx writes:

<< but the standard interpretation of the charter evidence we
have discussed is that Ibrea was the mother of Gospatrick Fitz Orm's
wife, Egliva. I tend toward the standard interpretation. Whichever is
correct, Ibrea can not have been Gospatric Fitz Orm's mother, as Ibrea
was still married to her known husband, Ranulph Engaine, some years
after Gospatric Fitz Orm was born. >>

You have not shown any of the above whatsoever.
You guess at the birthyear of Gospatric, and then later say its proven. It's
not.
We know he was a witness in 1150 and we know he was dead probably by 1179.

If you have more documentary evidence to date him, present it.
Will Johnson

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