Re: De La Hay of Shepreth, Cambs

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FILE [no title] - ref. DDTO K 22/12 - date: 1395
[from Scope and Content] Conf: Wm. Castellacre, knt., Thos.
Haselden, Jas. de Grauncestre, John Broune & Thos. Bradefeld to Wm.
Blyton of Lincoln, Thos. Egmanton & Wm. Lodington; the manor of
Longestanton called Waleweyns in co. Camb. for 11 years; remainder to
Wm. s. of John Dengayne, knt., & the heirs of Wm.'s body; remainder, as
to one moiety, to Mary now wife of the said Wm. Blyton of Lincoln & the
heirs of her body; remainder to Joan, wife of Baldewin de Sancto
Georgio, knt., & the heirs of her body; remainder as to the other
moiety to the said Joan & the heirs of her body; remainder to the said
Mary & the heirs of her body; remainder as to the whole manor to Thos.
Dengayne & the heirs of his body; remainder to Katherine late the wife
of John Burgh, knt., & the heirs of her body; remainder to the right
heirs of John Dengayne of Tauersam (8 seals, 3 damaged)

FILE [no title] - ref. DDTO O 9/14 - date: 1396
[from Scope and Content] Recovery: Wm. de Blyton & w. Mary & Baldwin
Seyntgeorgg', Chivaler & w. Joan against Joan who was the wife of John
Dengayne, chivaler; of 16 messuages, 92 acres of land, 16 acres of
meadow, 9 acres of pasture & 25 s. of rent in Schepreth & Little
Euersdon & the manor of Shepreth except one mess. 15 acres of land & 5
acres of meadow in the same manor, which Ralph Crecy late parson of the
church of Thorpe by Asschborn gave to John de la Hay & w. Joan & the
heirs of their bodies; remainder to Wm. de la Hay & the heirs of his
body; after the death of John & Joan the premises descended to Wm. de
la Hay & Margaret his dau. & ought to descend to Mary & Joan wife of
Baldwin, daus & heirs of the said Margaret.

Sutliff wrote:
> I started to research the ancestry of Sarah Pigot to see if it was in
> Thoroton, but I got sidetracked by the Annesley ancestry of Joan Annesley,
> wife of John Iwardby, ancestor of Elizabeth St. John, wife of Sir Richard
> St. George, Clarenceux King of Arms. Hope to have more time for this
> tomorrow or Friday.
>
> HS
>
> <mjcar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1128866444.467964.50080@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Ancestral to the St Georges of Hatley St George are the de la Hay
> > family of Shepreth.
> >
> > According to the Visitation of Cambridgeshire 1575-1619, the line was
> > thus:
> >
> > 1. William de la Hay, knight, Lord of Shepreth, Foxton and Papworth
> > Everard, Cambs; issue:
> >
> > 2. John de la Hay
> >
> > 3. Sir William de la Hay, knight, 9 Edward II; married Joan; issue:
> >
> > 4. Sir John de la Hay of Shepreth, knight, 1 Edward III; married Joan;
> > issue:
> >
> > 5. William de la Hay of Shepreth
> > married Sara, daughter of ... Pigott of Ratcliff upon ford, Notts;
> > issue:
> >
> > 6. Margaret de la Hay, heir: married Sir John Engaine, knight; [of
> > Teversham, Cambs]; 36 Edward III. Issue:
> >
> > 7. Joan Engaine, daughter and coheir; married Sir Baldwin St George
> > [died 1425; his brass confirming this date is at Hatley St George
> > church]
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > VCH Cambs Vol 8 p 168 sub Foxton largely supports the above, except
> > that it conflates generations 5 and 6 by making Margaret the sister and
> > heir, rather than daughter, of William.
> >
> > (Also additional is the wife of William at #1: she was Parnel, daughter
> > and eventual heiress of Alan de Shepreth, ff 1200, Lord of Foxton and
> > Shepreth, in turn son of an earlier Alan de Shepreth.)
> >
> > VCH states that #3 Sir William de la Hay died in 1316, and his son, #4
> > Sir John de la Hay died circa 1340, while #5 William de la Hay was
> > still living in 1346.
> >
> > Roskell et al in the 'History of Parliament 1386-1421', Vol 2 sub
> > Dengaine also states that Sir John Dengaine of Teversham married
> > firstly Margaret, daughter of Sir John de la Hay and sister of William
> > de la Hay of Shepreth (and secondly Joan, daughter of John, Lord
> > Northwood); VCH Cambs Vol 8 o 168 is cited as one of the sources.
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > A document on A2A, however, suggests that the generations as laid out
> > by the Visitation are correct, rather than VCH Cambs:
> >
> > Lancs Record Office: DDTO/09/14 dated 1396:
> >
> > Recovery: William de Blyton and Mary his wife, and Baldwin
> > Seyntgeorgg', chivaler, and Joan his wife v. Joan, who was wife of John
> > Dengayne, chivaler, of 16 messuages, 92 acres of land, 16 acres of
> > meadow, 9 acres of pasture and 25 shillings of rent in Schepreth and
> > Little Euersdon, and the manor of Shepreth, except one messuage, 15
> > acres of land and 5 acres of meadow in the same manor, which Ralph
> > Crecy, late parson of the church of Thorpe by Asschborn, gave to John
> > de la Hay and Joan his wife, and the heirs of their bodies, remainder
> > to William de la Hay and the heirs of his body; after the death of John
> > and Joan the premises descended to William de la Hay and Margaret his
> > daughter, and ought to descend to Mary and Joan the wife of Baldwin,
> > daughters and heirs of the said Margaret.
> >
> > MAR
> >

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