Re: Confusion over John, Constable of Chester

This is not a quibble, only an explanation. I have the birth as _estimated_ not circa 1200 for Roger de Quincy. What that means is that when you see in my data base _circa_ that has been presented somewhere. Estimated is a guess which should not be taken too literal. The reason I have to do this is that people with a biography (or a portrait) on my website _must_ have a year of birth . For those with a portrait that places the portraits in a time order in _All Portraits_ The reason biography holders must have a year of birth is because of something to do with my own data base, not the website, but it flows over to the website. And so if you see estimated by a year of birth, ignore it or be very careful.
Leo


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Douglas Richardson royalancestry@xxxxxxx wrote:
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I might point out that we have a rather interesting lineup of men in
this family, namely Roger de Lacy, born say 1165, Alan Fitz Roland,
born in or before 1175, and Roger de Quincy, born say 1185.  Alan and
Roger were married to the daughter and granddaughter respectively of
Roger de Lacy, yet only about twenty years separate the three men from
one another.  To say this is unusual is putting it mild.  As a general
rule, a mimimum of 50 years difference in age separates a man from his
granddaughter's husband.


Dear Douglas,

I think the new DNB gives Roger de Quincy's birthdate as c.1195, which
would alleviate matters slightly- although I can't now check that, or
how they worked it out. On the other hand, Genealogics gives his
birthdate as c.1200, and Jim Weber gives 1174, both citing several
sources, so there's a fair range of opinion. Presumably there would be
some leeway for the dating of the others too.

Matthew



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