Re: Henry VIII descendants

Dear Kirstie,
Don't forget John Perrott, he is a most likely son as well. I hope you can get hold of the Tony Hoskins' article, it convinced me. Give me a little bit of time and I will make a file with at least "some" of Henry VIII descendants and they include the two Carey children.

One statement says : On 20 April 1535, John Hale, vicar of Isleworth, stated to the Council that he had seen the nine-year-old Henry Carey, the king's son. On 4 May 1535, just two weeks later, John Hale was executed at Tyburn 'for denying the King's supremacy'.

Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia





----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristie Thompson" <girlvol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Henry VIII descendants


I don't want to step on any toes here, but Henry having descendents is only
true is if we accept that Henry Carey was the son of Henry VIII. I have
doubts about this. First, Henry VIII raised Henry Fitzroy to the status of
royalty. I find it hard to believe he would ignore another son, especially
one born before Edward was. In addition, Henry usually fell quickly out of
love with his mistresses the moment they had a child (Bessie Blount comes to
mind) and Mary had already had Catherine in 1524. Also, most sources have
Henry in love with Anne by the time Mary bore Henry Carey.

I'd love to believe that Henry had another son. Certainly, there is the
circumstantial evidence to support both sides. For one thing, Carey's name.
Also, the fact that Anne was given guardianship of Carey might support his
having been a son of Henry VIII.
It is terribly fascinating and I do envy you - you are a descendent for sure
of the Boleyn's and maybe even old Harry himself!! If you email me off list,
I will tell you about a list on the Boleyns.

I would enjoy reading this article if someone could tell me where I could
find it!
Thanks,
Kristie
----- Original Message ----- From: <fairthorne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Henry VIII descendants


Vicki Perry writes:

> Hi,
>
> I was following the posts about Henry VIII's offspring with interest.
Does
> anybody know if there are any descendants of his illegitimate (or
alleged 
> illegitimate) children alive today?

Lots - including me

Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon
Robert Carey, 1st earl of Monmouth
Thomas Carey, second son
Elizabeth Carey married John Mordaunt, Viscount Mordaunt
Sophia Mordaunt married James Hamilton
Anne Catherine Hamilton married Michael Ward
Bernard Ward, 1st Viscount Bangor
Hon Robert Ward, third son
Anne Catherine Ward married John Goddard Richards of Ardamine, co Wexford
1793-1846

then a few more generations to me, which explains why I am grateful to
Tony 
Hoskins for his article

Leo very kindly provided me with a massive list of descendents

cheers

Simon

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