Re: Where are we from?



David wrote:
>
> The dialect referred to is either Schwäbisch or an old version
> Switzerdütsch, based on the origin of the Amish, but typically would not
> be confused with (Western)Yiddish, which is a mixture of the eastern
> German dialects, Polish, and some Russian.
>
> Chances are that he was referring to a southern German dialect, which
> are extremely regional. My grandparents came from two areas on the
> opposing sides of the Rhine, approx. 25 miles apart. While they could
> easily communicate, there where distinct differences in their dialects.
>
> E.g., he high German word "Seife" (Soap) was "SAAF" in one place and
> "SEAF" in the other.
>
> Hope this confuses more! :-)
>
> David

I've got a hunch that your first choice up there, Schwäbisch, would be
the right one. "Wir können alles ausser Hochdeutsch" :) The Germans that
populated Somogy and similar areas og Hungary were known as
Donuaschwabens and there is quite a bit of literature available on them.
Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that knowledge would lead anybody back to
ancestors in Baden or Wuerttemberg.

Bob

> Joe Pessarra wrote:
> > "James" <WilliansWalker@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:1138030070.228880.39920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >>My ancestors have lived in a State in Hungary called Somedgy. (I know
> >>I spelled that wrong) They lived near Kaposvar in a villiage called
> >>Esceny. This was a predominately German villiage. Where would these
> >>ethnic Germans have originated from in Germany? Does anyone know?
> >>thanks.
> >>
> >
> >
> > You might check this site:
> > http://feefhs.org/BANAT/BHISTORY.HTML
> >
> > Here is an old post looking for information on the same subject:
> >
> > Re: German immigration to Hungary in late 1700's, early 1800's.
> >
> > Henry Robert Heiczereder (heicz@xxxxxxxxx(Henry)
> > 2 Nov 1996 13:13:45 GMT
> >
> > My parents and relatives all come from a village in Hungary called
> > Esceny. It is relatively close to a bigger town called Kaposvar.
> > Their ancestors migrated to this area in the late 1700's and early
> > 1800's. I'd like to know from where. Some folks say the 'Frankfurt am
> > Main' area, others say the 'Black Forest' area, and others say from
> > 'Allsace-Lorraine' area and the 'Strassburg' area in France. But know
> > one is really 100% sure. I know that our language(Dialect) is very
> > different from the 'High(Book) German', and bears some resemblance to
> > the 'Mennonite' and 'Amish' peoples. I have also noticed some
> > similarities with 'Yiddish.' Any information that anyone has would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > heicz@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Good luck on your search.
> >
> > Joe in Texas
> > joepessarra@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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