Re: FamilySearch Wiki 'Barn Raising' for England
- From: Renia <renia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:10:28 +0200
Michael Todd Ritchey wrote:
On Mar 5, 1:55 pm, Renia <re...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<snip>Second, the term barn-raising, has absolutely no meaning in England.
Thanks for the redirection, Renia. What term that is intuitive to the
British should we call a short, collaborative, content-writing
Erm . . .
A short, collaborative, content-writing sprint.
I suppose, nowadays, we'd just call it a Wiki?? Any other ideas?
If you can't realise the cultural and language differences between our
two countries, then this could impact on the value of FamilySearch Wiki.
Each country would probably prefer to deal with its own country's
genealogy and history, in such a Wiki, than have another country do it
You've got a good point. It's probably a good thing that it's not me
trying to write the British content. That would be a true
disaster. :') Most of the folks who are writing it are people in the
UK, some of whom you may know, as well as people at the Family History
Library who are professional genealogical librarians accredited in
genealogy by ICAPGen.
There is no formal genealogical qualification necessary in Britain. There are courses that can be taken, but no one needs a formal qualification to practise as a genealogist.
And as you said, Genuki is a great site that should be recommended to
all British researchers. I don't work on the British floor at the
Family History Library, but whenever I speak to the British reference
team about research, it doesn't take long before they mention Genuki.
Our family history consultants in British family history centers who
help 69,000 patrons there per year also love Genuki, as do the
patrons. I think most genealogists with British ancestry hold Genuki
in high regard, regardless of where they live. They recommend it to
everyone, as they should. In fact, I just did a search of FamilySearch
Wiki to see how many times it links to Genuki. It looks like the wiki
mentions or links to Genuki on 109 pages. The search results can be
seen at http://tinyurl.com/bgr4w8
Thanks for that. I notice the page describing Genuki itself, has been accessed 75 times (when I looked). The page describing English Archives & Libraries has been accessed 791 times. The page describing Welsh Maps has been accessed 413 times. The page on English Registration has been accessed 1155 times. Comparatively, not many people are finding out what value Genuki can be.
The page on English Registration has this:
1. FreeBMD - Search features include:
* Date the event was registered
* Name of the district and county
* Date range
* Names of parents or spouse
This is wrong.
The search is for year and quarter. The parents' names are not in the index. The marriage indexes only show the spouse's surname from about 1912 onwards.
On the same page is this section:
British Persons Christened, Married or Buried Abroad
British subjects born abroad can be a challenge to find. The Family History Library has many British church records for persons living in foreign countries. Records extracted for British persons abroad will be listed in the International Genealogical Index (IGI) by the place where the event was recorded. When searching the IGI you must identify the region to be searched although you may not know the region.
This is misleading because Christenings and church records, by definition, are not part of civil registration. The phraseology suggests ALL records for British persons abroad WILL be found on the IGI. The examples then given, are for church records, not civil records.
The section then goes on to say, correctly:
The General Register Office (GRO) has indexes to Army Chaplains records, consular records, regimental registers, births and deaths at sea, and war deaths. These indexes are available at the Family History Library on microfiche. Call numbers may be located in the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) by using the Place Search for Great Britain-Civil Registration-Indexes.
But the section fails to mention these indexes are available online for searching or browsling at:
This Civil Registration page is the only page I have looked at, but it is muddled, badly-written, full of irrelevant material, particularly about the IGI's role in Civil Registration, and fails to mention what was GRO's own searchable portal at FindMyPast.com
And how is anyone supposed to find this wiki? There is nothing on FamilySearch's home page to tell you it exists.
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