Re: Lifeless births


"Richard van Schaik" <f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Don Moody wrote:
"Richard van Schaik" <f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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Hi,

During searching and adding for dutch records (including lifeless
births) I wondered why those births are so hidden in ..... England
/ Britain (do not know the limits in this case, never searched
beyond lets say the FreeBMD area plus some Channel Island
records). Every record is so in the open compared to other
countries, but these lifeless births are almost impossible to get.
Why?

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In any case, genealogically stillbirths do not, by definition,
contribute any descendants to the family tree so what is the urge
to find them?

But if just one gasp of air is enough to register (and also they
don't contribute any descendants) what is the difference. (Keith
gave me in private the best answer .... civil registration against
clerical registration. So Napoleon again in this difference, you
didn't get his visit ;-).


Put back in what you snipped and you'll find the difference. There are
times when legalistic nit-picking, jesuitical disputation, rabbinical
pilpul, and the Code Napoleon can and should be slung out of the
window. Stillbirth is a tragedy that has to be dealt with in human
terms, and that includes not only the parents but other members of the
family and the whole culture and social circumstances.

Try being a father and having to make exceedingly tough decisions
about life and death 'off the cuff' and in view of your
responsibilities to the whole family. Then you'll also find out why
understanding doctors, nurses and midwives on occasion help by
chucking the rulebooks out of the window.

Until you have some personal experience to back up what you are
talking about, I suggest you don't visit this topic again.

Oddly, this is one topic on which many tribes of so-called primitive
savages are very much more realistic and sophisticated than Western
culture. They live with the raw facts, experience them too often, and
perforce develop coping mechanisms.

Don


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