Re: Swiss Grandfather

Retired wrote:
My grandfather was Johann Schutz, who apparently came to England around 1890 where he met, but apparently did not marry my grandmother. what was his date of birth

if she worked as a governess in Switzerland they could have married there

She is in the 1901 census as Mary Jane Schutz, with two children, but he is missing.
Would he have been allowed to come to England in those days without any immigration problem, or would he perhaps have deliberately hidden to avoid officialdom?
There is no naturalisation record at the National Archives, and I wonder how a German speaker avoided getting interned in 1914 or 1939.


what records do have in which he is named?
did you ever meet him?

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7814&path=Essex.Chingford.ALL.2.20


Births Mar 1897
Schutz Maria Rosa Wandsworth 1d 825
what does it say about her father?

also
Births Jun 1899
Schütz John Reginald W. Derby 8b 566

in 1901 he could be in South Africa as a soldier


Name Age
John R Schutz 2
Maria R Schutz 4
Mary Jane Schutz 35 was she married already?



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1637; Folio: 39; Page: 20.
Name: Mary Jane Schutz
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Chingford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Chingford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England



Occupation: none listed



Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129


returning to Liverpool for the second child
a baptiam might be useful??

some spelling variations in WW1 medal rolls

John C Shults East Surrey Regiment 9354

John E Shults Royal Garrison Artillery 42046


John E Shultz The Queen's Regiment, Royal Defence Corps 3830,92422
d
John F Shultz Royal Field Artillery 47227

candidates

Exact Search Results - 1891 England Census
You searched for Joh* Schult* 24 hits


http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6598&path=London.Camberwell.Camberwell.25.1

a baker shop assistant

John M Schultz abt 1865 Germany Brother Camberwell, London


Exact Search Results - 1901 England Census
You searched for Joh* Schult* 37hits
sailors


Johann Schulte abt 1858 Hannover; Westrhauderjohn, Germany Mate Vessels, Hampshire

Johannes Schultz abt 1872 Germany Engencer Vessels, Yorkshire

Johannes Schultz abt 1872 Germany II Engineer (Engineer) Vessels, Yorkshire

a boarding house full of sailors

John Schultz abt 1882 No Shields, Northumberland, England Boarder North Shields, Northumberland ? too young anyway

occupation is critical

Hugh W

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