Re: Ngu+ da^n mie^`n Trung ke^? la.i vie^.c nhu+~ng ngu+ da^n Phi Lua^.t Ta^n chi? da^~n ddi tro^'n nhu+ng kho^ng hie^?u ho. no'i gi`

Tui cu~ng hong pha?i la` binh la^'y ddu+o+.c, no'i thie^.t thi` tui
cu~ng hong co' chu't ca?m ti`nh gi` ma^'y vo+'i ma^'y cha la~nh dda.o
be^n ddo'. Nhu+ng ma` tui nghi~, what can you do better??? Cu+' ddu+'ng
ddo' chu+?i xo^?ng xo^?ng no' ngu no' do^'t, khi? ddo^.t ddu+o+`i u+o+i
thi` no' se~ hong co' tai na.n nhu+ va^.y nu+~a ha?
Ca'i chuye^.n tai na.n dda~ xa?y ra, ma^'y cha la~nh dda.o be^n ddo'
cu~ng chi? cho? nhau, ddo^? lo^~i lung tung, chu+'ng to? la` ho. cu~Ng
co' tra'ch nhie^.m ddo' cho+'. Va` ho. cu~ng ba`n tha?o ti`m ca'ch
improve ca'i ky~ thua^.t va` ca'ch dde^? communicate better. Co`n mi`nh
thi` o+? dda^y cu+' toa`n la` chu+?i xo^?ng xo^?ng cho+' ho?ng bie^'t
la`m ca'i gi` ho+n he^'t thi` mi`nh te^. ho+n ho. ca? tra(m la^`n.
Ne^'u ho. la` khi? ddo^.t thi` mi`nh la` ca'i gi` nu+~a dda^y?????
Tui cu~ng ddo^`ng y' la` honest and constructive criticism la` ddie^`u
ca^`n thie^'t, ma` hong bie^'t ca'i criticism cu?a tui co' pha?i
constructive hong nu+~a :-((( Nhu+ng ma` tui co' co^' ga('ng a` nghen.

QT

jupiterean wrote:
Chuye^.n na`y thi` cu.c khi' tu+o+.ng gi` -do' o+? VN co' va^'n -de^`
cho+' kho^ng pha?i do ca'i inaccuracy cu?a nga`nh meteorology no'i
chung. Think about it, ne^'u ca? Trung Quo^'c la^~n Phi -de^`u du+.
ba'o -du+o+.c thi` ta.i sao VN la.i kho^ng ? Ca^u ho?i na`y du+ lua^.n
trong nu+o+'c cu~ng -da~ -da(.t ra ro^`i -do' nhen Mr QT.

No'i chung la` che^ la^'y -du+o+.c hay binh la^'y -du+o+.c cu~ng la`
tra^.t chi`a tuo^'t. Honest and constructive criticism is what's
needed.

JoJ

QT wrote:
Ma^'y ba.n chu+?i thi` de^~ la('m, cho+' ma` suy nghi~ mo^.t chu't thi`
se~ tha^'y mi`nh chu+?i ...lo^.n.
Ca'i chuye^.n la` du+. ba'o tho+`i tie^'t, no' chi'nh xa'c cu~ng chi?
khoa?ng chu+`ng 70% ma` tho^i, ddo' la` chu+a ke^? ca'i khoa ho.c ky~
thua^.t cu?a Vie^.t Nam trong ca'i vu. du+. ba'o tho+`i tie^'t co`n
thua xa so vo+'i ca'c nu+o+'c kha'c.
Ma` no'i ca'i chuye^.n khoa ho.c ky~ thua^.t cao nhu+ o+? My~ na`y,
ma^'y bu+~a tru+o+'c ho. ddoa'n la` ba~o Katrina se~ vo^ New Orleans,
ro^`i thi` no' la.i ddi le^.ch qua be^n kia, ro^`i no' la.i quay
ngu+o+.c tro+? la.i, sao kho^ng tha^'y anh na`o le^n dda^y chu+?i la`
bo.n du+. ba'o tho+`i tie^'t, khoa ho.c ky~ thua^.t cu?a My~ toa`n la`
thu+' ngu xi dda^`n ddo^.n he^'t va^.y???? Co`n ma'y GPS, do` signal
gi` gi` cu?a ba.n tuna no'i ddo' no' co' giu'p ngu+o+`i ta bie^'t
ddu+o+.c ddu+o+`ng ba~o ddi hong dzi.?????
Khi ma` tai na.n xa?y ra ro^`i ro^`i la he't chu+?i bo+'i thi` no' hong
co' giu'p ddu+o+.c cho ai dda^u. Ddie^`u hu+~u i'ch la` ti`m ca'ch go'p
tie^`n ba.c giu'p cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i tha^n cu?a na.n nha^n. Co`n
hong giu'p ddu+o+.c gi` thi`... hong no'i.

QT

tuna wrote:
ba'c buile va` viperle no'i dde^`u ddu'ng he^'t.
DDo.c thi` tha^'y to^.i nghie^.p cho da^n dda'nh ca' kho^ng bie^'t ro~
nguy hie^?m ve^` tho+`i tie^'t ne^n bi. che^'t ra^'t nhie^`u mo^.t
ca'ch oang uo^?ng

Ve.m ngu ma` co`n cho^'i bai ba~i. Ca'ch ma.ng khoa ho.c ky~ thua^.t
la` the^' dda^'y !!!

Da^n thu+o+`ng be^n na`y ddi ca^u ca' tre^n ta`u co' GPS, ma'y ra
signal cu?a ca' ro^`i co' radio sw dda`i khi' tu+o+.ng update dda`ng
hoa`ng. Ve.m ngu ddo'an mo` va` la^'y info. tre^~ thi` da^n phu.
thuo^.c tin tu+'c cu?a co+ quan nha` nu+o+'c chi? co' nu+o+'c ...
ddi mo` to^m thie^.t su+. tho^i !!!!

tuna,

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buil...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Ta`u dda'nh ca' "quo^'c doanh" thi` co' the^? co' he^. tho^'ng
lie6n la.c . Vi` ho. thua^`n tu'y la` co^ng an/li'nh .

Co`n ta`u dda'nh ca' cu?a da^n ma` trang bi. he^. tho^'ng
lie^n la.c, thi` coi bo^. muo6'n va`o tu` ma` ngo^`i . Bo6. muo^'n
lie^n la.c vo+'i CIA hay pha?n quo6'c hay sao ma` ca^`n ? !!!!!!!!!!!!


Mo^.t nu+o+'c ma` dda'm la~nh dda.o nhi`n chung quanh, dda^u dda^u
cu~ng tha^'y co' ke? thu` thi` la` mo^.t vie^.c ra^'t la` kho^'n kho^?
cho da^n .
DDa'm la~nh dda.o Vie^.t co^.ng vo^'n la` nhu+ va^.y !

"Con khi? ddo^.i ma~o bie^'t ddo+`i na`o kho^n ?"

buile


viperle wrote:
DDa^y chi'nh la mo^.t tha?m tra.ng cu?a dda^'t nu+o+'c VN!
Da^n dda'nh ca' VN kho^ng co' trang bi. he^. tho^'ng lie^n la.c vo+'i dda^'t
lie^`n ! ne^'u co' cu~ng che^'t vi` ba?o ! Co quan trach nhiem ,
lai du ba'o sai va ddoa'n mo` ! thanh ra tin loan ra tren radio ! tra^.t
la^'c !!!
DDi?nh cao tri' tue^. ! dde^'n ho^`i cho dan dda'nh ca' di tha(m Ba'c
tru+o+'c.
viperle


<hytran@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8qpr72tjgnkfojmujt45585ugvnt7vkgda@xxxxxxxxxx
Calitoday, 30.5.06

Nhu+~ng ngu+ da^n thoa't che^'t trong co+n ba~o Chanchu ta.i tho^n
Hie^.p Hu+ng thuo^.c xa~ Bi`nh Ha?i, qua^.n Tha(ng Bi`nh, ti?nh Qua?ng
Nam thua^.t la.i ve^` nhu+~ng tho+`i kha('c kinh hoa`ng khi ba~o
Chanchu a^.p dde^'n ngay no+i ddoa`n ta`u DDa` Na(~ng, Qua~ng Nga~i
tru' ba~o ta.i dda?o DDo^ng Sa.
Ho. cho bie^'t ho`n dda?o to ba(`ng dda?o Co^`n Co? cu?a VN nhu+ng
mo?m dda?o nhi`n tu+` xa tro^ng nhu+ nu'i Phu' Si~ cu?a Nha^.t ba?n.
Phi'a be^n kia la` vu+.c bie^?n, dda'y sa^u dde^'n 2000 thu+o+'c.
Mo^.t ngu+o+`i ke^? la.i ra(`ng khi so'ng bie^?n da^ng cao, mo^.t so^'
ta`u dda~ bu+'t neo, bay qua dda?o nhu+ng la. lu`ng co' ta`u chi? bi.
ho?ng ma'y, thuye^`n vie^n kho^ng he^` ha^'n gi`.
Mo^.t ngu+o+`i no'i ne^'u bi. ro+i xuo^'ng tu+` ddi?nh dda?o va` chi`m
nhanh xuo^'ng thi` a'p sua^'t kho^ng khi' va` su+'c e'p du+o+'i dda'y
vu+.c se~ la`m be^? xa'c, kho^ng the^? no^?i le^n. Anh Ha` Va(n
DDe^'n, mo^.t trong 570 ngu+ da^n so^'ng so't tro+? ve^` ke^? la.i
ra(`ng: ca^u mu+.c tre^n vu`ng bie^?n na`y co' nhie^`u ta`u Phi Lua^.t
Ta^n, va^.y ma` trong ca'c nga`y 10 va` 11 tha'ng 5 ho. dde^`u cuo^'n
ca^u va` ro+`i kho?i ngu+ tru+o+`ng. Tru+o+'c khi ddi, ho. la he't ra
hie^.u vo+'i nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dda'nh ca' VN ra^'t nhie^`u, the^'
nhu+ng ngu+ da^n Vie^.t kho^ng hie^?u ho. muo^'n no'i gi`.
Co' ngu+o+`i ddoa'n la` ho. no'i co' ba~o, nhu+ng kho^ng ai tin vi`
lu'c na`y ca'c dda`i VN dde^`u ba'o la` ba~o xa o+? vi~ ddo^. 12,
trong khi ta`u ho. ddang o+? vi~ ddo^. 19, ho+n nu+~a la` ba~o ddi
hu+o+'ng Ta^y va` Ta^y ba('c thi` la`m sao a?nh hu+o+?ng ddu+o+.c. Anh
no'i ne^'u hie^?u nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i Phi Lua^.t Ta^n a^'y no'i gi` thi`
ngu+ da^n Vie^.t dda~ theo ho. ta^'p va`o bo+` bie^?n Phi Lua^.t Ta^n
vi` chi? ca'ch bo+` co' 30 dde^'n 40 ha?i ly'. DDie^`u na`y cho tha^'y
chi'nh vi` du+. ba'o sai tra'i cu?a ca'c co+ quan tho+`i tie^'t CS VN
dda~ ddu+a dde^'n ca'i che^'t ddau thu+o+ng cho nhu+~ng ngu+ da^n
Vie^.t trong vu`ng DDo^ng Sa, cho dde^'n nay va^~n co`n ho+n 250
ngu+o+`i ma^'t ti'ch va` bi. coi nhu+ dda~ che^'t kho^ng ti`m tha^'y
xa'c.
Trong khi ddo' thi` trong nu+o+'c va^~n tie^'p tu.c nhu+~ng tranh ca~i
ve^` vie^.c ai se~ pha?i chi.u tra'ch nhie^.m ve^` vie^.c du+. ba'o
sai tra'i ddu+o+`ng ddi cu?a ba~o Chanchu. Va(n pho`ng Thu? tu+o+'ng
CS VN dda~ go+?i co^ng va(n ye^u ca^`u ca'c bo^. nga`nh lie^n quan
dde^'n ha^.u qua? cu?a ba~o so^' 1 pha?i la`m kie^?m ddie^?m va` ba'o
ca'o ve^` nhu+~ng sai so't trong vie^.c du+. ba'o cu~ng nhu+ ddo^'i
pho' vo+'i ba~o so^' 1, trong khi nhu+~ng nha^n va^.t co' lie^n he^.
thi` le^n tie^'ng tu+. bie^.n minh cho mi`nh va` ddo^? lo^~i cho
ngu+o+`i kha'c.
Pha't ngo^n vie^n cu?a bo^. Thu?y Sa?n la` Nguye^~n Ngo.c Oai thi`
la.i chi? xin hu+'a he.n la` tu+. ru't kinh nghie^.m, nhu+ng no'i
ra(`ng hie^.n nay cu~ng chu+a pha?i la` lu'c dde^? xem xe't tra'ch
nhie^.m. Va(n pho`ng nha` nu+o+'c thi` no'i ra(`ng ca'c bo^. nga`nh
se~ pha?i ba'o ca'o tru+o+'c nga`y mai la` thu+' tu+, nhu+ng mo^.t
so^' ca'n bo^. dda~ xin ca^u gio+` khi no'i ra(`ng ba^y gio+` pha?i lo
cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i bi. na.n tro+? ve^` va` ti`m kie^'m nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i co`n ma^'t ti'ch. Co`n no'i dde^'n chuye^.n nguye^n nha^n
thi` co' nhie^`u nhu+ng xin dde^? ve^` sau.
Ca^`n nha('c la.i la` khi co+n ba~o Chanchu ba('t dda^`u tie^'n va`o
bie^?n DDo^ng nga`y 13 tha'ng 5 va` dde^'n 7 gio+` sa'ng nga`y 15 thi`
ddo^.t ngo^.t chuye^?n hu+o+'ng ddi ve^` phi'a Ba('c. Toa`n bo^. ta`u
thuye^`n cu?a ngu+ da^n VN ddang khai tha'c o+? khu vu+.c na`y. Theo
tho^ng tin ban dda^`u tu+` nga`y 13 ca'c co+ quan theo do~i khi'
tu+o+.ng cu?a VN ddoa'n ra(`ng ba~o se~ ddo^? bo^. va`o VN, do va^.y
ta`u se~ tra'nh ba~o sang phi'a bie^?n Trung Quo^'c va` DDa`i Loan.
Khi ta`u thuye^`n sang vi. tri' na`y thi` ba~o la.i ddo^?i chie^`u,
ma` ca'c du+. ba'o VN la.i kho^ng he^` bie^'t trong khi du+. ba'o cu?a
ca'c nu+o+'c kha'c va` ngay ca? tre^n Internet dde^`u loan ba'o ro~.
Chi'nh vi` va^.y ne^n mo+'i ga^y ra thie^.t ha.i lo+'n ve^` ngu+o+`i
va` ta`i sa?n cu?a ngu+ da^n.


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