Re: PURIM on March 3rd
- From: "ljsprojects" <T.Schmidt.Teddy@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 24 Feb 2007 04:45:23 -0800
On Feb 24, 12:37 am, Jaime G <nob...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1172271294.747094.268...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"ljsprojects" <T.Schmidt.Te...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If you don't know what Purim is, here is a note:
Don't you think that is a little misleading?
You are obsessed with Jews. What have they done to you? Save that ire
for the US, who really *is* out to get you.
"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum." - Lucretius
Jaime (Haim in Hebrew):
I post just to make it interesting and controversial. I am surrounded
by Jews and I have Jewish ancestors, too, from father and mother sides
but very far away.
Most people considered Jews don't follow their religion. It is
Zionists that make all the trouble. I don't consider truly Jewish some
one who converts in or out..
You are right, I was thinking on the terrible meaning of Purim for
the Persians (or other goyim). What follows is Purim according to the
Jewish version. Read to the end, where I demolish it. Facts have a
tendency to survive tha flow of time.
The story of Purim is told in the Biblical book of Esther. The heroes
of the story are Esther, a beautiful young Jewish woman living in
Persia, and her cousin Mordecai, who raised her as if she were his
daughter. Esther was taken to the house of Ahasuerus, King of Persia,
to become part of his harem. King Ahasuerus loved Esther more than his
other women and made Esther queen, but the king did not know that
Esther was a Jew, because Mordecai told her not to reveal her
The villain of the story is Haman, an arrogant, egotistical advisor to
the king. Haman hated Mordecai because Mordecai refused to bow down to
Haman, so Haman plotted to destroy the Jewish people. In a speech that
is all too familiar to Jews, Haman told the king, "There is a certain
people scattered abroad and dispersed among the peoples in all the
provinces of your realm. Their laws are different from those of every
other people's, and they do not observe the king's laws; therefore it
is not befitting the king to tolerate them." Esther 3:8. The king gave
the fate of the Jewish people to Haman, to do as he pleased to them.
Haman planned to exterminate all of the Jews.
Mordecai persuaded Esther to speak to the king on behalf of the Jewish
people. This was a dangerous thing for Esther to do, because anyone
who came into the king's presence without being summoned could be put
to death, and she had not been summoned. Esther fasted for three days
to prepare herself, then went into the king. He welcomed her. Later,
she told him of Haman's plot against her people. The Jewish people
were saved, and Haman was hanged on the gallows that had been prepared
The book of Esther is unusual in that it is the only book of the Bible
that does not contain the name of G-d. In fact, it includes virtually
no reference to G-d. Mordecai makes a vague reference to the fact that
the Jews will be saved by someone else, if not by Esther, but that is
the closest the book comes to mentioning G-d. Thus, one important
message that can be gained from the story is that G-d often works in
ways that are not apparent, in ways that appear to be chance,
coincidence or ordinary good luck.
In short, Purim is the day that the Jews did to Persians what Persians
were going to do to them (so they say in the Bible, which was written
by Jews). Could it be the Jews were not going to be killed, but the
winner makes the story, and for the winner any excuse is a good
P.S.  I think it all was idea of Esther, from a sneaky Jewish girl
with that name you can expecta the worst.
P.S.  The date varies according to the year, since the festivity is
based on the Jewsih calendar. Here are the dates for a few of the next
Jewish Year 5766 : sunset March 13, 2006 - nightfall March 14, 2006
Jewish Year 5767 : sunset March 3, 2007 - nightfall March 4, 2007
Jewish Year 5768 : sunset March 20, 2008 - nightfall March 21, 2008
Jewish Year 5769 : sunset March 9, 2009 - nightfall March 10, 2009
Jewish Year 5770 : sunset February 27, 2010 - nightfall February 28,
P.S.  Before I close, this is what the Jews did (the part they keep
silent in most of their versions). Here the revenge is presented in
eight  words according to a Jewish website.
Haman was impaled instead of Mordechai. The Jews joyfully slaughtered
75,000 of their enemies.
In other words, the Jews did to the Persians what the Jews claim the
Persians were going to do to them.
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