Thaksin's Speech at the UDD Rally : Naming Prem : Part 2

Thaksin's Speech at the UDD Rally : Naming Prem : Part 2
http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/thaksins-speech-at-udd-rally-naming_30.html?showComment=1238483760000#comment-c5145266056755687985

Posted by Bangkok Pundit | 3/30/2009 06:00:00 AM
On March 27 at 8:30pm, Thaksin spoke, via video link, to the UDD Rally and for
the first time specifically named Prem as the charismatic person/person with
clout outside the constitution. Matichon has three videos of the event (video 1,
video 2, and video 3). Matichon has basically a transcript. Part 1 of the
translation is here. Part 2 is below:

?????????? ??.?.?????????????? ????????????????
????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ???
??.?.???????????????????????????????????????? ????????
?????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????? 26 ??????
?????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????

[BP's own translation: [I] ask that why on the night of the coup did Gen. Prem
take Bung [ie Gen. Sonthi] for an audience with HM the King. It is like he is
the head of the coup group. When Surayud was PM, Prem said Gen. Surayud was like
Winston Churchill, who was one good British PM...... when Abhisit [BP Either
Thaksin misspoke or a Matichon error as it is "Prem" who said this as Abhisit
wouldn't be talking about himself!] said that Abhisit was a good person. He was
the head of the Privy Council. Then on March 26, he said he cheered Abhisit. He
was still the head of the Privy Council]

??????????????????????? ???????????? ??????????????
???????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????? ????????????
????????????????? ???????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????

Why I speak is because I love and respect. I have previously prostrated myself
at his feet. He is a puu yai [senior respected figure]. I was a PM from a
younger generation and so respected him, but Pa [meaning father, Prem is
referred to as Father Prem] became involved as politics in his capacity as head
of the Privy Council. I don't want to see. Pa don't do like this. How Pa gets
involved and orders this way and that way in the position of a charismatic
person/person with clout outside the constitution is something whic causes
damage to the country. It means there are double standards. Injustice in society
occurs. Pa shouldn't do this.

???????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????????
???????????????????????? ??????????? ?????????????????????? ????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????????? ?????????????????? ??????????
??????????????????? ??????????
?????????????.????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????

In regards to Surayud, he has been "active".He has been wading into things with
the media and dedicated in a number of issues. We need to ask Sergeant Yak [guy
arrested in alleged car bomb incident in August 2006]. When there was a car bomb
attempt at me. He said that if it was not successful there would be a coup and
Surayud would be PM. Then, when Sondhi L in Virginia was in Virginia, Surayud
telephoned him and gave him a TV station as Sondhi was made with me as I didn't
give him one.

????????????????? ????????????????????? ??????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????
??.?.?????????????????????????????????? 7 ???????????

When I was PM. There was one Deputy PM. I didn't see clearly. Later, I
discovered that he invited one businessman to become a Minister. Then later,
Gen. Surayud requested that this person become a PM under Section 7. This
fitted.

?????? ???.????????? ??????? ??.?.???????? ??????????? ??.?.????? ????????????
??????????????????? ????????????????? ??.?.?????????????? ?????
??????????????????????????????? ?? ??.?.??????????????????? ???????????????????
?????????????????? ... ???????? ???.????????????????

On the EC, it is the same. [He] requested one EC member and Chamlong Srimuang
went with him. They said he should resign. If not, they would be jailed. He was
afraid. Before he resigned I went to the Privy Council and met Gen. Surayud and
asked him about this. He said he knew nothing about it. In the end, they were
jailed.

BP: This is not a complete translation. Thaksin is someone who talks for a long,
long time. He goes on to talk about corruption in coalition party politics under
Abhisit (10 million Baht an MP) and a number of other topics, but hey the focus
is on Prem so hence didn't blog on the rest.


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9 comments
tum|bler // March 30, 2009 8:01 AM
Who's the Deputy PM that Thaksin referred to? At first I thought it was Surakiat
(the former Foreign Minister), but a Thai Rath columnist implied that it's
actually Somkid (former Finance Minister).

Occasional // March 30, 2009 9:46 AM
Veera has an opinion piece over at the Post:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/14220/numbers-tell-the-tale-of-a-failure-to-win-over-the-people

Veera is always willing to make a call on how things will go.

Netirat // March 30, 2009 11:21 AM
BP: In your English text you missed one part where Thaksin remark was pretty
humorous. "I went to find out our whether the monument for Churchill was still
there or whether it has moved to Yai Tiang Hill (where Surayud built a mansion
allegedly on restricted land in national forest). I thought that was a nice
satire, really a gem, by Thaksin.

hobby // March 30, 2009 3:41 PM
Could the deputy PM be Purachai? - he's another who didn't get on too well with
Thaksin after a while.
Although, IMO, Purachai is one of the good guys, so why would Thaksin need to
worry about him?
(I note he stayed out of the fray over the last 2 year even though he is not one
of the banned - no stomach for getting down & dirty is usually a sign that they
have some integrity)

Netirat // March 30, 2009 9:51 PM
hobby: I think Purachai was not the one. Thaksin moved him to be Deputy PM
because he had a clash with Somchai (Thaksin's brother in law) and I think that
was before "Article 7 PM" period. Purachai was Thaksin's comrade in arms. He
helped founding TRT. Thaksin is loyal to no one. He goes by "What have you done
for me lately". That is why he has few friends. His former close allies left
him. The most critical was Newin. You did not see Somkid, Chidchai or Surakiat
working hard for his return. Now his Red lieutenants are lightweights.

Veharachan // March 30, 2009 9:57 PM
Thaksin kept talking about "double standards". He failed to understand the true
dimensions of Thai culture. We don't deal in "double standards". We employ
"multiple standards".

bkkunderground // March 31, 2009 8:52 AM
bp: ????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????? (not a
matichon error i think, just thai syntax the space separates the 2 phrases).
Should be translated as 'when it came time for abhisit, prem said thailand was
lucky to have abhisit as pm' or 'and then there is abhisit, prem said thailand
was lucky to have abhisit as pm'

Netirat // March 31, 2009 11:37 AM
Thaksin claimed Prem's comments on PM Surayud and PM Abhisit mean that Prem was
meddling in politics. That is not a strong case because it is not by itself
improper for the President of Privy Council to praise or support the Prime
Minister.

David // March 31, 2009 2:16 PM
Netirat, thank you for your comment,

is that a legal opinion,
just a personal opinion
or do you claim some other authority?





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