Re: To SCT censor Stefanie.

HawaiianEye wrote:
Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:06:23 +1100, Krypsis <krypsis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Good Soldier Schweik wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:38:09 +1100, Krypsis <krypsis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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Paranoid? I don't think so. Cautious? Yes definitely, especially since watching you and your ilk hound people out of SCT and even Rec.Knives!
Frankly, do you blame me for being wary?
I assume that you are referring to Steve Cramer who, if you actually
read this group for any length of time, you would have realized was a
nearly psychotic liar and to my mind richly deserved everything he
received.

I have read quite a few of your posts where you have said this. Can you prove any of it? I have seen many troll posts about this, but no one ever posted any facts. Just going by typical troll logic that if you say something often enough it must be true. Guess what people are saying about you. :o) I am certainly a believer.

One example, his harassment of a Thai business in Chiang Mai
until the Thai company complained to the Police who ordered Cramer to
cease and desist (and pay for the fax paper that his round the clock
harassment had used) is fairly indicative of the kind of person he is.

Well, that's one side of the story I guess and not one I'm inclined to believe given the origins of it.

Obviously you don't read this group sufficiently, as Cramer admitted
in several posts that he was in fact guilty of the "offense" even
attempting to justify it by saying that "it was only a little fax
paper". In addition photos were published of him in the police station
looking quite contrite that he never argued were not taken during his
"visit" there.

Schweik, you really are an ***, aren't you. You have people all over the net telling you this but you've got your head so far up you can not hear them. At least I hope the problem is that you can not hear them, and not that you do not acknowledge them. That would be pretty damn sick. Remember this if nothing else. You are judged by the friends you associate with. You only associate with trolls, fools, and crazies. They are the only ones who talk 'with' you. Other people talk 'at' you.

Being that you are so quick to condemn people without any facts and even less research, here are some of Kramer's posts regarding that incident.
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Jan 23, 2005
Let's see... if the police know that the number is mine,
and Hillside Plaza knows the number is mine,
why didn't the police make me pay you for the 10 rolls of faxes?
Or at least charge me with sending them?
Or charge me with anything?

....snip....
Instead they just told you to sit down and shut up. Several times. But
you were too drunk to listen. You even attacked the publisher of the
magazine right in the police station! That was impressive too.

> > The management of
> > Hillside has also been informed of his fax follies.

... in writing, by me, when you sent me your first fax. By the way,
Hillside Plaza management will charge YOU if you send any more faxes
here. It was the manager who first helped me tell the police what you
were up to. She told them about the faxes that you sent to me before I
even showed them to the police. Each one had YOUR fax number on it. She
also told them about your visits to my building, sneaking in to drop off
packages to me. That impressed the police too.
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The police were fully aware of the facts, but did not charge him with anything. Does that give you some sort of clue? There is such a thing as an action being 'justified.' Maybe your take on the situation is wrong. You have been wrong quite a bit. You do not like to admit that, which is the mark of a very small man, but it is true. The only thing big about you is your vocabulary. I believe the correct English word is 'verbose.' I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong.

Knowing a large number of words is one thing. Knowing what they mean is an entirely different matter. GSS fails miserably in the latter regard as evidenced in his use of "adverse" where "averse" was correct. Also his constant use of "then" where "than" is the correct form. His lack of grammar and punctuation skills are clear evidence that his foray as a journalist was a blatant lie. His lame excuse, when I pointed these shortcomings out to him, was that his work was proofread for him before publishing. All very well but you might have thought that he would learn something from his proofreaders corrections, but no, same old errors keep popping up time and time again. His poor old proofreaders must have thought they were dealing with a rock!
When someone boasts about being a journalist, I expect their writings to be of an acceptable standard. Most journalists that I have ever dealt with always try to maintain the highest standards wherever and whomever they write for. Far too easy to let standards slip but difficult to drag them back up again.

GSS a journalist? What rot!

There are lots more like this one. I guess they were too difficult for you to find. There are no references to Kramer's being kicked out of Thailand. No references to Kramer's being arrested. No referenced to his being detained in any fashion. There is nothing in any Thai newspapers about any sort of police problems, only newspaper and magazine articles about his doing some good things for Thailand and for his business. In fact, there are absolutely NO negative references anywhere other than what know trolls posted about anything. But you do a wonderful job supporting the trolls, don't you. I have a lot of time on my hands, and can't get around these days. The computer has been a great source of information. You should try it someday.

What I've noticed the trolls do is to reverse typical situations. Kramer was actually the one at the police station complaining about the actions of Bob the lunatic. The trolls twisted it around to look as if the reverse were true. That photo of Kramer in the police station as a proof was ambiguous in that regard. That GSS supports the twisted view says a lot about him.

However, he is but one example. There have been many others. One that I recall used to post a lot about Thailand here, good anecdotal stuff. He, I think, actually lives in Thailand. He stopped posting about a year back. He seemed to be getting a lot of harassment as well. There were many others who stopped posting much earlier than that. Many of them received harassment of varying degrees. Were they all psychotic liars? Maybe they just posted stuff you didn't agree with?

Krypsis, there were plenty of interesting people posting in soc.culture.thai. Read back through the archives and find posts by Sandy Cruden, Traveler, Vagabond, Roscoe, Jonas, PapaJon... and Kramer too. He

Ah yes, those names bring back lots of memories. Pretty much all gone now and who could blame them!

was a very active poster with good information about northern Thailand. These are just a few that I have been reading lately. Take a look at ThaiVisa.com and you will find a lot of the people who used to post here have moved there. Soc.culture.thai used to have its flame wars too back then, but they were over issues, not over people. People used to fight with other people then too, but then they'd agree to disagree and the fights would be over and the discussion back to things about Thailand.

Yes indeed, the flames would be against the posts, not the poster.

Now it is just the trolls and a few posts about Myanmar.

These same trolls, including Schweik posting as BruceinBangkok,

Yes, I recognized his patter but couldn't put a name to it myself

completely destroyed rec.knives. It went from a very active group with dozens of posts every day and 20-30 regular posters down to just a few posts a month from 3-4 people. That is the goal of the trolls. They even brag about it.

And call in "reinforcements". How inane was that?

You have a brilliant memory - strange you can describe the event but
forget the name of the individual.... Or are you "protecting" his
identity?

I've given you the names. Now why don't you pack up and leave this group to get back to the subject of Thailand.

Vain hope I fear!

Similar to your claiming to have written the definitive report but "it
is a secret and I must not divulge it for fear that someone might
identify the author".

You still haven't identified yourself either. Why is that? You told us that you would. This makes you a liar.

Why would anyone identify themselves with real names on this forum? Need only look at those who did! I recall one poster here who had a number of trolls post in his name. It was easy to tell the real from the fake as the "patter" was so obviously different. he's gone too!

For that matter, why don't you INITIATE discussion in this forum?

If he did that he wouldn't appear to be such a know-it-all. It is much easier for him to be critical than to be correct.

Could it be that he isn't capable of original thought?

Why should I initiate a discussion? What is to discuss?

And THAT sums up Schweik perfectly. Some people talk because they have something to say. Schweik talks because he has to say something. He isjust another troll.

Schweik, you are a waste of space.

And that just about sums him up!

Surely does!

Krypsis
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