Re: Thai poor can't pay rich prices to save their lives? tough sh*t, hints Minister Chaiya

On Feb 13, 10:05 pm, "maxwell" <mmmaxw...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Tchiowa" wrote ...

"maxwell" wrote:
"Tchiowa" wrote ...
Yet another example of how 'the party of the poor' is a party of the
rich.
Yes. How dare they think about the future

~Poor Thai (as MOST are) with cancer, and their families, do NOT have that
degree of freedom to think about the future, or much fair expectation of
even HAVING much of a future,

And the Left seize on their pain, promising something they can't deliver and
openly destroying the future for other people in order to try to get cheap
political support.

~Ummm, CL is a direct approach toward affordable modern medicine in
developing nations,

No, it's a dishonest shortcut to solve today's problem and make
tomorrow's problem worse.

and while such a one as 'tchiowa' could not in truth give a FF about the
agonies of other peoples' cancers metastatizing
and of their deaths, Public Health officials damn well SHOULD.

My mother-in-law died of cancer so your stupid attempt at an insult is
offensive. But that's the Left for you.

~It's not about your mother-in-law, so your stupid attempt at taking it
personal is transparent:

I see. Another comment where my "personal experience" doesn't compare
to your "Wikipedia Knowledge"?

the "other peoples' cancers metastatizing" refers
to Thai without the means to purchase cutting-edge pharmaceuticals and
similarly costly therapeutics, which is NOT the case for the rich or those
having kin such as you or I.

Cutting edge pharmaceuticals only exist because the drug companies
earn enough to do research. If you got your way the problem would be
solved because there wouldn't be any cutting edge treatments
available.

You, on the other hand, either don't know or don't care what the long term
consequences of your policies are. You, for example, couldn't give a damn
about the 10's of millions of people killed by the Green movement you
support.

~Nice try at taking it OT.

Not off topic. It was exactly the same thing. Short term solution
promoted by the Left caused enormous long term harm.

No, it's the kind of thing that Leftists simply can't understand. You want
to have a short term solution and you neither know nor care about the
consequences. Had your beliefs been widespread 20 years ago we wouldn't need
to have this discussion because the drugs they are trying to get simply
would not have been invented.

~Simply false.

Simply something you can't understand. Being a Liberal means mastering
the art of the incomplete analysis.

 And if your
policies were adopted now, 20 years from now more would be dying
because of a drug that didn't get invented. But of course that
couldn't be proven so you can blindly move on.

The poor should get the drugs. But they should get them because the Thai
government negotiated a deal with the drug companies to buy them at a fair
price and then help the poor.

~That's both 'the best of all possible worlds' AND a good piece of what the
previous health minister was doing, TYVM.

Compulsory Licensing is not "negotiating a deal".

Not by simply stealing.

~Simply false, becasue the WTO Compulsory Licensing provisions are not
'simply stealing'

The provisions have rules. Violating those rules is theft.

"This is a landmark achievement that we hope will help developing countries
devastated by HIV/AIDS and other public health crises," said chief U.S.
Trade Representative Rob Portman.

Thailand is *NOT* a "developing country". I realize that you elitists
in New Jersey still think Thailand is 3rd World. You should drop by
occasionally. The rules were meant for countries like the Congo or
Papua Niugini or Angola or Zambia or the truly poor countries that are
politely called "developing". Thailand is a Middle Class country.
Neither rich like the US nor poor like Afghanistan.

You should try to get around to a few countries in the world and find
out what true poverty is all about.

Whoops. I'm sorry. You don't have to do that. You have Wikipedia.
.

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