Re: How to fight pedo French like Deckard in Thailand (Technical data)

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From: Edward Teune <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:10:07 -0400
Subject: RE: A tourist at Khorat

No superstitous people in Europe? not a one?
Quite a few, I would say.
Does everyone in Europe hang around in a food court where the cooking
equipment is burning? What a dork!
It is quite obvious that you stayed simply to try and show your "european
superiority" in the face of what a normal person would consider to be an
undesireable situation. Maybe there were a couple of drunk, fat stupid
farang baba booboo still eating lethargically in a buring food court, but I,
for one, would have been a farang eating and drinking elsewhere.
What would be the point of staying? To try to make up for your inferiority
complex visavis the rest of the non-european world by trying desperately to
give the appearance of superiority in a little burning food court?
That's pretty sad, my european friend. farang baba booboo????
you really ARE a dork!
I think the Thais were simply laughing AT you and your slow-witted inaction.


Comparing it to the Roman walls in Europe, I turned round to make a comment
to my guide but she was gone. Very surprised, I looked around for her in
the twilight.
After several minutes, I saw her coming hastily from the end of the wall.
To my enquiring eyes, she replied:
" I don't want to stay all my life at Nakhon Rachasima"
"Uh?"
"A legend says that everybody who goes through this gate will stay forever
at Khorat"
"But you're a student from the university!"
"Yes but the university of Khon Kaen not Khorat"
"I have gone through the gate but I doubt I'll stay more than 3 days here"
"Of course, you are a Farang so you cannot believe this"
She gave up trying to convince me.
Two hours of visit later, we decided to go to a big shopping mall
called...The Mall.
In the basement, there is a Japanese restaurant where you can eat sukiyaki.
This sort of restaurant chain is common in Bangkok with a different brand
name.
Despite their taste for spicy food, most of the Thai people that I know
like Japanese
food; so do I. The restaurant was almost full and we sat down at a table
near the windows.
Then the young waiter switched on the electric hotplate under the water
pot.
Five minutes later, a waitress brought us the different ingredients that we
had chosen on
the menu. The Thai student put them in the boiling water while she
translated their names
into English and French for me.
My mouth watering in anticipation, I was about to take a piece of Japanese
food when a
dull noise came from the end of the room. I would not have payed attention
to it but half
of the customers stood up with a big smile on their face. The sort of Thai
smile that
means: "fright". A second noise and everybody stood up, so did I.
Then I could see the cause of the noise: a hotplate was burning. When a
flame came from
the machine, all the staff and several customers went away from the
restaurant.
I was waiting for the course of events. It was a fire with electricity and
water: so the
safety fuse blew out and the water boiled over the pot, extinguishing the
fire.
I sat down to continue my meal but the hiss of the steam had an opposite
effect on the
Thai customers. Everybody ran away from the room.
Sipping my beer, I was waiting for the air conditioner to clean the air.
The manager came
to remove the hotplate and the pot. Despite being Thai, he was not smiling.
I looked
around me: on my left, there was only one client, a Farang man with white
hair, eating
heartily his sukiyaki; on my right outside the restaurant, a dozen of Thai
people -
including my student - were peering at us through the windows with a big
smile on their
face. The sort of inimitable Thai smile that means: "Farang ba ba booboo".
All the light came back quickly and most of the customers decided to finish
their meal.
Wisely, I avoided discussing the subject with my guide for the rest of the
night.


Provincial Mort

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"Deckard" <Blade@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Something that may interest people living in Thailand who want to know
more about the hidden machinations of the junta and its reactionary
minions.

Mort
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Knowledge is the best tool to fight censors
by Don SAMBANDARAKSA

It seems interesting to note than when something as blatant as
censoring YouTube occurred, nobody seems to be responsible for it, or
for finding out who did it. The Ministry of ICT (MICT) said it was not
their fault while the TOT and CAT also denied responsibility.

But the problem was that the block was transient, continually in a
state of flux, and lasted for only a matter of hours. As one engineer
at an ISP who tried to help analyse the block said, "you can only
speculate as to what happened after the fact. What we need is
information on the block when it's actually in place."
But after this news hit a couple of weeks ago, many readers came
forward to say that the YouTube block was not unique - that strange
things had been happing to other web sites, for weeks before that.

One newspaper's web department contacted explained how they first saw
something out of the ordinary around two weeks prior to the YouTube
block. Their web site was suddenly responding slowly and some users
had noted that, in the browser window, instead of the message saying
that it was waiting for the domain name in question, it said that it
was waiting for a certain numerical IP address belonging to CSLoxinfo,
which had nothing to do with them. This new site then spewed out what
was effectively a copy of their web site.

Now, to recap for a moment, the YouTube block was done by an HTTP 301
redirect. In other words, the "server" that http://www.youtube.com
pointed to was not really the YouTube server, but was a third party
machine redirecting the user, first to nowhere, later to the
mict.go.th web site.

What was happening to that newspaper's web site, one speculates, is
that the same HTTP 301 redirect was happening, redirecting to a server
which then probably did some logging and redirected it back to the
real server, which is hosted overseas. Worryingly, such an attack
could not happen without the ISP or gateway's cooperation. The fact
that it happened at the same time by many different ISPs suggests it
happened at the Internet gateway level. For Thailand, the gateway is
run by CAT.

Now that we know how, a brief glance at the effects of this technical
gobbledygook may be in order. The damage done can be felt in a number
of ways. For most, including that newspaper's web site, it was just a
slowdown in the already obscenely slow Internet.

For YouTube viewers that Saturday, it meant a block. What few realised
is that the same double redirection mechanism can easily be used to
watch what we do online. At the very least it can log URLs opened and
pair them to IPs, which means a log of who is visiting which web site.
A more sophisticated mechanism may even be to eavesdrop on email,
passwords and the like.

Hark back to the coup and one recalls that General Sonthi said that
anyone eavesdropping on telephone conversations would have their
telecom licences revoked. Of course, only geeks use email and credit
cards for e-commerce. Real army people use mobile telephones, cash and
post armed guards in front of network operations rooms to prevent
someone hacking the network and installing a piece of spyware.
Incidentally, rumours are that the MICT once commissioned a major
university years ago to build a session hijacking system, though
nobody today seems to be willing to confirm its existence.

Could it be that the disruptions of the past month was the result of
three of these hypothetical boxes being installed at the International
Internet Gateway? Could it be that the only reason that YouTube was
blocked was because of the design of the blocking box, which did not
differentiate between control traffic and end-user (re-directed,
monitored) traffic?

Could it be that once they had hijacked sessions with very high
traffic, such as the YouTube site, the box crashed because it could
not handle the load and required someone to physically visit the box
on Saturday morning to manually reset it? So what can we do? Taking to
the streets in mass protests at Big Brother is one option, but we have
been there, done that and it is what led us to this mess to begin
with.

The best defence is knowledge. If we can tell when this session
hijacking technique is taking place, it will at least make Big Brother
think twice.

Firefox and Mozilla users can install a plugin, live HTTP headers from
livehttpheaders.mozdev.org. This will, as its name suggests, show the
actual HTTP dialogue between the browser and server in real time. What
this means is that, if it is redirected via the HTTP 301 redirect
message or communicating with a server it should not be talking to, it
will be made clear to see.

Once the IP address of the man in the middle is identified, programs
such as nmap (http://www.insecure.org) can be used to probe and
fingerprint that node. Users should then talk about it in public fora,
compare notes from the http headers and nmap results and then, with
enough information, perhaps the finger of blame can finally be pointed
at someone with proof, rather than just a couple of bits of
circumstantial evidence and a lot of speculation.




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