Re: Iran) Iran issues "military" warning to US

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:32:19 GMT, "BillReese" <BillReese@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> But since over 70% of Americans don't even own a
> passport, and most couldn't pick out the middle east on a world map
> without help, it's not surprising.

don't mean jack ***... we see a LOT of protest on our news and we see
terrorist kill Americans in many of the other countries around the globe
(Jealousy). The Arab creeps are sworn to kill us, just because we support
the Jews, who were given that property they own becasue of those lousy
European countries and their problems back in the early 1900s.. We're still
bailing out the Europeans since WWI.. we did it in WWII, and we pick up
their junk like the mess the french got us into in Vietnam. Point is don't
matter about reading a map, we deal with all the jealous people of the world
trying to take on the big man on the block.. Why??? because they are
no-bodies, they want to make a statement, they don't want to hit England,
they are no body.. they want to hit the big guy.. even though it's pretty
stupid to take on the USA, because one way or the other they'll loose.

> Of course Iran would stand no chance against the USA, militarily.

At least you know that, most people of any sanity know it


> the idea that it would be the end of hostility between the West and
> elements of Islam is a joke.

Quite Frankly... there is no other nation of substance that is standing up
to the USA, other than Iran and Korea.. the later of which is on borrowed
time. I was across the Yalu river last year and saw their city... They
have no electrical power there.... their second largest city has no lights
at nightime.. I watched them cultivate these HUGE farms without horses or
any power equiptment.. they are about as poor as it gets.. Everyone is
without power in that city, think about what it's like to live that way..
Talk about Poor.. The simple fact is they are nothing, that is why Bush
ignores them and don't consider them a threat to the world. Their leaders
will slowly disappear from the scene, so Iran is the only confrontational
country.. other than very small (completely) powerless nations.

France and Germany yelled like crazy for a short while because USA did not
kiss their stinking asses in the UN before we attacked Iraq. Those both
were the largest trading countries with Iraq, except Russia.. that was the
only reason they were against it.

You ***-ass'ed EU people wanted us to go with you to that dictator in
Bosnia.. What the ***... I mean you guys wanted a WAR and "you guys" did
not want to go to the UN because you knew it would not pass.. You figured
NATO was the only important thing to justify your "EU" war.. and you drug
Clinton into Bosnia to chase some guy who murdered about 35,000 of his
people.. fine, it was done.. But Saddam killed over 700,000 people and
you EU people think this war was horrible.. (get some consistancy)

*** you EU assholes.. you are snobs.. you only like wars that are your
ideas. Me, I had no interest in Bosnia.. it has no interest to the USA at
all. We buy nothing from there, they do not threaten our friends.. it was
the worst kiss assed politics Clinton played to allow that war. YET..
here is a guy (Saddam) who was shooting at our jets policing the no-fly
zone.. he shot at our jets over 600 times (which for your info, ___IS___
an act of war).. He gassed many people and he attacked our friend.. then he
violated the armistic that he signed on, So in "reality" the war never
ended if he broke the agreement he swore to in order to get the ceasefire...
So how can France and Germany complain??? I will tell you how, they both
were dealing an awful lot of money with Iraq, and that was the bottom line.
Some of the other countries who were against the war are always against any
war, I have no problem with that... But the French and Germans are always
on the wrong side of anything, for over 200 years. Bush is dumb with the
press.. He's not my idea of a great man.. But there is nothing wrong with
the war, nor America...

we are just as strong now as ever. Our economy is not bad, you are pretty
blind, or just very dumb. Everyone is bullish on the stock market, all
american businesses are making a lot of money these days.. that is real
money. Wall Street, YES, is speculation, but the USA is a nation of much
more varied resources than you realize. that is why you are so dumb about
our economy, you are focused on a few things. Our economy goes up and it
goes down, always has, always will. But it never goes too far down for
long, and there are some times like in the Early 60s and late 50s were it
peaked very, very high. Yes, we are still Number 1 in Gross Product, and
China is a distant second with less than 1/2 our wealth.. Your country is
quite far down that list.

that is why the world is jealous of us.. not because they are mad at Bush,
he's a pansy, the only reason he was elected is becasue he is not a
democrat.. our country has had very, very few democtat presidents. Since
those guys are getting more radical in the last 10 years, there is less
chance we'll have another one soon. Democrats here only have complaints,
and they love to focus on their special interest groups.. They have no
plan, no message for the masses, only messages for small groups.. They
have always been loosers in our elections since the early 50s because they
are not mainstream.. They won't be in power until they stop being a party
of gay lovers, overly black focused, and think every environmental idea is
the word of God.. Republicians are not war lovers, Clinton started as
many wars and more as Bush has... it's just that Clinton had no balls to
take on the 3rd largest army on Earth.. Clinton took on Bosnia (small as it
is) and Haiti, and 2 africian countries.. It has nothing to do with
Republicians wanting war. Afganistan was a war we did not start, Iraq was
a choice becasue Saddam attacked our planes, and he defied the agreement he
signed, after attacking our friends, and gassing a lot of people.
Republicians have balls, they don't start more wars.. they just are not
pussies like you guys in Europe are.. you get train stations bombed... and
all you do is send money to the terrorist in hope they'll stop bombing you..
you guys are such loosers.. Europe has over it's share of cowards, most of
us here in the USA know it, and so do the Terrorist.

Maybe Bush won't attack Iran, but I'd like to see it, YES... the world
would be better off. If we hit Iran hard, the people would come into
power, rather than those radicals.. Even if the radicals still keep power,
they will be country of depleted military.. so we win either way.

Lastly anyone like you who thinks the world is better off with Saddam
running Iraq, and Osama running Afganistan is very, very simply... a big
nitwit... you don't have a clue if you think the world is not better after
they both left the scene. Even a retard knows the world is better off
without those two running those two coutries. Anyone with a brain knows
that both Saddam and Osama had a lot more effect on the world than that guy
in Bosnia.. Only a total moron would think the world is worse off with
those guys gone..But we expect not much less from people in the EU these
days, they are not held in great regard any more here.

The above diatribe is a perfect example of the kind of arrogance i
referred to in my post. It displays a total non-understanding of the
issues. If you'd made any substantial points i'd be glad to debate
with you. But it's redneck bluster right down to the last syllable.

If the American economy were seriously in great shape you wouldn't be
running a trade deficit larger than any in history, of any country.
The dollar wouldn't be in a position of continual slide for 25 years,
leaving it with a value 60% less than it had on world markets in 1980.
If the dollar were strong there wouldn't be an exodus of countries,
who had previously bought US government bonds, into the Euro.

Most narcissistic entities believe that others are jealous of them.
Strangely enough, much of the world probably isn't too jealous of a
society that talks about god as if he/she were their personal
property, yet has the largest arms manufacturing and pornography
industries on the planet. A country whose genius spawned coca cola,
macdonalds and wal-mart. Three of the most despised corporations on
earth. A country that has the greatest obesity problem in the history
of humanity. And a country whose president has made more verbal gaffs
in his time in power than any other leader in modern times. No!
Actually you may be surprised to learn that it isn't jealousy that
leads people to rage at America. It 's anger. Anger at the abject
arrogance of her foreign policy. Now let's be honest. Every country in
a position of dominance in world history has acted similarly. Great
Britain did so during its dominant period, when it had the largest
empire known to mankind. The British were arrogant. That's a fact. And
they were despised for it at the time. So it's not like it's never
hapened before. But if you assume that kind of stance, don't be
surprised if people dislike it. And don't try to make it ok by
assuming it's jealousy.

As far as the Middle East is concerned it has been both Europe and
America that have caused major problems there, by trying to impose
artificial borders, inserting puppet governments, selling arms to the
area and generally behaving like they owned it. And all because those
scrubby areas of desert contain the bulk of the planet's oil reserves.
America didn't go to war with Iraq for altruistic reasons, or because
the Iraqi's took a few potshots at their planes. She went to war
because Iraq has OIL. And it's western oil companies that have tied up
30 year imposed deals for Iraqi oil, at very advantageous prices. Over
half the American nation is now against the war. They want their
children, the troops sent there to secure the country, to come home.
The great nation of America, faced with a fraction of the number of
deaths born by the Iraqi civilian population, want it all to stop.
Their ability to sustain a long war is gravely in question. As soon as
body bags start to come home they cry 'foul'. Well ... that is the
reality of a foreign policy that is cobbled rather than planned. And
let's look at the wars America has fought recently.

Viet Nam - Lost to a country with less than 1000th of USA resources
Desert Storm - Stopped before victory could be completed
Grenada - Won against a handful of rebels
Afghanistan - Rebels still active, and reforming
Iraq - Dozens of incidents every day in a country that is supposed to
be 'secure'.

If a people doesn't want to be ruled there is little another country
can do to subjegate them. The Iraq situation will end with no outright
victory. America will pull out after Britain pulls out, sometime in
the next two years. The rebels will still be there. You can't nuke
everyone on the planet, even if you might like to.

In the next 50 years America will takes its place among the has-been
powers of the past. The money that buoyed the USA for most of the 20th
century will flow to Asia. The largest comporable economy on the
planet is not America. It's Europe. It has a slightly larger
population and greater output.

I hope the American people sack the sad sacs and take their place
again in a democratic world. Its contribution to the 20th century was
great. If it continues on its present course its contribution to the
21st century will be wholly negative.


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