Re: (talesofasia) Don't drink with Thais


Chayco wrote:
> "rinpoche" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1127870521.407602.213090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Well, some farmers have guns too. I have a few in laws in the police
> > force and I still drink with them, but I keep the conversations
> > superficial and I always let them carry on when I've had enough.

And one reason some people will never understand Thailand or the Thai
people is that they keep all of their relationships on a superficial
level. Typical behavior from those who feel superior to other races.

> > Anyway, I think the violence has more to do with bottled (pun)
> > frustrations rather than just alcohol per se. I've seen people from
> > other cultures behave that way when they have been suppressing their
> > feelings of hatred and anger. This sort of behaviour is common in
> > Thailand because people are expected be kreng jai, appear jai yen and
> > say mai pen rai all the time.

Bull. It is no more common in Thailand than in China or Singapore or
the US or Australia or anywhere else. Drunks are drunks.

> One time in the backwoods I had to drink with the Border police and things
> strated to go downhill late at night.
> It came down to resentment I believe. The chap in charge was well educated,
> in a position of power and respect, but when it came down to it he perceived
> every bloody tourist he came across.... appeared (to him) to be better off
> than he was.
> Just remember every drinking man will excuse the other to step out for a
> piss.....that's your cue......keep walking.
>
> I'm rather surprised at this new breed of expat.....afraid to sit down with
> Thais who welcome you over for a drink ?
> That kind of behaviour helps instill resentment in the locals.
>
> I have been through many Hill villages on business and pleasure. When
> entering an unfamiliar village I would look for the group of old men who are
> invariably sitting around. I would sit down and offer a 'ben' of whisky to
> pass around between us. The other people would see this and I would be given
> the nod to interact freely with the village. Just being polite and
> neighbourly.

I've been in about 40 different countries, many (like Thailand)
completely different from the US. I have found that if you take just a
few minutes to show people a bit of respect and to treat them as equals
(as you describe above) then you are accepted and respected in return.
People are people where ever you go. If you treat them decently they
will usually return the treatment. If (like some others that claim to
be experts) you treat them as second class humans they will often feel
the need to show you the error of yours ways.

Some people just don't seem to get that.

I think one problem might be with the English language and the was some
people pronounce words. They think that expat means expert and treat
the locals accordingly. They invariably lose in the end. And, of
course, they blame the locals.

.

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