Re: Islam hijacked by Wahabism....by Shadykh M Kabbani

"Daniel" <daniel_h_laurent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "maxwell" <mmmaxwell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Daniel" <daniel_h_laurent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote ...
> > > "maxwell" <mmmaxwell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote ...
> > > > oooh, have I time for a stroll down propaganda lane?
> > > > . .aw shucks, WTF!
> > > > "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote ...
> > >
> > > (Snipped but, Maxwell, I got a got a healthy laugh while reading your
> > > account re. the *real* political power of the Jews in the USA)
> >
> > "what is left" is a WHOLE lot that if you looked further, would be NOT
> 'what
> > is left'-- but "what constitutes the most powerful parts of the Right"
in
> > the U.S.
> ====================
> Would you mean that this "cliche" about the WASP represents in fact the
> "most powerful parts of the Right in the U.S" as you said? (Genuine
question).

Said so it's fact.
Daniel, when the WASP label became uncomfortable because it was so strongly
associated with bigotry and racism, the Republican party changed their tune
and donned the mantle of "compassionate conservatives"--and they are
decidedly well to the Right of true conservatism.
Regardless of what they call themselves, their agenda remains very much one
which encourages Americans to "tolerate" rather than respect those who are
not of the WASP persuasion. As an exercise, google the info on White House
occupants, both elected and appointed, and also that of U.S. large
companies' CEOs--especially of the energy and military equipment and support
industries, who are decidedly Rightists, and decidedly disproportionately
swinging the power.

> >
> > <ruminations read>
> > >To be anti-jew from a racial point of view is in fact to be
> > anti-the-whole-of-mankind :-)
> >
> > Lofty words.
> ===============
> What means lofty????
> Beware, I am ready to stick to my words above :-)

Idealistic--fact is that Islamist anti-Jew sentiments are not against the
vastly greater number of what they consider mankind, and the billions of
Indians and Chinese don't worry much about what some people think about
Jews. Hell, Thai even call stingy people Jews, following King Rama VI's
translation and introduction of 3 Shakespeare plays, one of which was the
Merchant of Venice, and in truth most 'commonfolk' Thai know few Jews, if
any.

> > > It is a fact that the USA is a strong ally of Israel, but that started
a
> > > long time ago, in 45, when the GI's discovered the concentration
camps.
> >
> > Ummm, Allied command nearly jumped through hoops rationalizing _not_
> bombing
> > the rail lines leading to the camps,
> ========================
> Be more clear.
> Do you mean that the Anglo Saxons didn't bombed, on purpose, the Nazis
mass murder network?

Correct. Didn't bomb, and high command knew well before the camps were
captured what was going on, but deemed military targeting first priority,
though not so first priority as to fill the skies of Dresden in Februrary
1945 with bombers one not-fine day.
Remember, most of the length of the rail lines to the camps had scant
anti-aircraft defenses, and the crematoria themselves threw flames and smoke
into the night, while the camps had no more than light air defense, if at
all--not that AA fire was something Allies ran chicken from, just noting
that it was low-risk life saving--of Jews.

Here--I need sleep soon:
<q>The question is this: Why did the Allies burn Dresden--a city of little
military value--to the ground, when they never attempted to destroy
Auschwitz, where more than 2 million people were exterminated by the Nazis?-
AUSCHWITZ WAS the most infamous of the Nazi concentration camps. It was both
a death camp for extermination and a slave labor camp for the production of
war materials. Why didn't Britain and the U.S. use their massive bomber
fleets to destroy this factory of death?
It wasn't because they didn't know about Hitler's plans. As early as the
summer of 1941, the British and American governments had a clear picture of
the planned genocide of Europe's Jews by the Nazis.

It wasn't because the Allies didn't know where Auschwitz was located. In
April 1944, the U.S. and Britain had their first aerial reconnaissance
photos of the entire Auschwitz complex, along with the nearby slave labor
camps of Birkenau and Monowitz.

It wasn't because their bombers couldn't reach Auschwitz. Southern Poland,
where so many of the concentration camps were located, was within range of
Allied bombers based in Italy. In fact, Auschwitz was "accidentally" bombed
in September 1944--by American planes that were supposed to be attacking
Monowitz because of its synthetic oil processing facilities.

The decision not to bomb Auschwitz can't be separated from the Allies'
general opposition to all plans to rescue for European Jewry. This reflected
not only the anti-Semitism widespread within the U.S. and British
governments, but also the possibility that Hitler might be willing to make a
deal.

The attitude of the U.S. government toward rescuing European Jews was best
summed up by R. Borden Reams of the State Department's Division of European
Affairs in May 1943. "While in theory, any approach to the German government
would have met with blank refusal, there is always the danger that the
German government might turn over to the United States and to Great Britain
a large number of Jewish refugees," Reams said. "In the event of our
admission of inability to take care of these people, the onus for continued
persecution would have been largely transferred from the German government
to [the Allies.]"

John McCloy, the assistant secretary of war during the Second World War, was
for many years seen as the main figure in the government blocking any
proposals to bomb Auschwitz. But shortly before his death, he revealed that
President Franklin Roosevelt himself vetoed such proposals.

"I didn't want to bomb Auschwitz," McCloy recalled. "It seemed to be a bunch
of fanatic Jews who seemed to think that if you didn't bomb, it was an
indication of a lack of venom against Hitler. "Whereas the President had the
idea it that that would be more provocative and ineffective. And he took a
very strong stand."

If the U.S. and Britain acquiesced to the bombing of Auschwitz, it would
have meant accepting some responsibility for the lives of millions of
Jews--something they were adamantly opposed to. For the Allies, the war
effort came before saving the lives of Jews </q>




> Remember, me frog, me anglish no goud
>
> > U.S. turned away refugee ships during the war, Prescott Bush and
Harriman
> > continued dealings with nazi financiers while the war went on and were
> never brought to account in court for trading with the enemy
> =====================
> Please, details, sources, we are all interested to know up to which extend
the capitalists, of ALL nationalities, went alongwioth the Nazis.

Do some googling, please, since you're asking for rather large essay(s)--I
found the quote above in one minute--doing one's own reading broadens
perspective, even a frog might agree? ;~)

> ==================
> So, the US were
> >
> > > Anything against that?
> >
> > Plenty on this board at times--just most speak more pc when espousing it
than you've seen ' a dollah spent on'
> ===================
> Can you translate that in something a frog can understand :-(((((

pc=politically correct; in this context, it means less overt racist
innuendos than dollah spouted are the norm from the anti-semitic ones.


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