Re: Do train driver need to speak Queen's English...speak all languages,... Chinese, Malay and Indian ?

On Dec 25, 7:21 am, baldeagle <force....@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 25, 2:27 am, Zanzibar <zanzibar_d...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Dec 24, 11:51 pm, baldeagle <force....@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In an emergency, when a train is stuck in a dark tunnel..the
passengers want to know a few vital information. What happened (what
caused the train stoppage)...how long they would be in the tunnel.. is
help coming and when....can they leave the train and find their own
way to the surface ?

Do the train driver need to speak Queen's English to convey these info
to the passengers ? Do they need to convey their messages in Chinese,
English, Malay and Indian ?  Obviously  NO, NO.

I am sure...Singaporeans can understand English or Singlish or broken
English...and pasar Malay. Indians who do not understand broken
English can get translation from other Indian passengers.
The Chinese train drivers can speak Chinese, broken English or
Singlsih or pasar Malay. Malay and Indian train drivers can speak
Singlish or Malay.

The SMRT spoke person, Goh Chee Kong talked cock, when he said that
"SMRT staff who are of different races find it difficult to
communicate to commuters"  What is the difficulties...unless SMRT
insist that they speak Queen's English??!! The brainless MP who echoed
him and angered Singaporeans should resign. He should know that SMRT
spoke person is NOT the PM ...his word cannot be trusted ..he cannot
echo the SMRT spoke person like a parrot.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/117280....

Yes, they do need to speak Queen English, - but, for those levels of
jobs, - able to speak proficiently, at least to O level standard.

Since Queen English is the main medium of language of instruction in
Singapore, they should at least speak well enough to this proficieny
standard.

Not true...Queens English is not the medium of instruction.

In Singapore few can speak Queens English..Only people
like Lee Kuan Yew, Yong Pung How..and a few others.
Even news readers don't speak Queens English.
Most Singaporeans speak Singlish...with words like "No lah"
"wrong lah",....with local syntax and idioms...with a mixture
of Malay and Chinese words.

If speaking Queens English is a qualification for MRT
train driver,...then no one will qualified.

What is the need for the train driver to speak Queens
English when talking to passengers in an emergency ???

In an emergency, 'rojak English' will surely do..as long as
he give the passengers the info needed by them.





Otherwise we are saying to them that they can maintain or set their
own proficency standard of a "rojak" proficiency, like most
Singaporeans who had acquired their a culture of rojak langauge
proficiency called as  "Singlish".

Like this, by allowing the way we decide on how we speak our english,
we will forever never be able improve our English speaking proficiency
skills, as this was deliberately reduced by them after they left
secondary school.

By so doing, they had indirectly rejecting the proficiency expectation
of speaking good English to even a O level stadard.

They purposely brought down their O or N level proficiency level to
street level Singlish. They prefer a choice of a "rojak" proficency,
and this was athough they had been educated, acquired, and attained
them to reach O or N level proficiency standard.

In reality, Seng Han Tong was right and Halimah was stupidly wrong.
She was flawed in arguments, by saying, in a implied and twisting way,
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Ok since you defiend Queen Enlgish as those who educated in those
early days of English years, and I was using the current Singapore
English standard, -which is the O level standard of English that is
taught and set by our joint Ministry of Education and the Cambridge
University.

I think they should at least speak to our O level standard, and not to
Queen Standard which is not relevant to them.

If they are not proeapred to even speak to O level proficiency
standard in sngapore, it means we had defeated the strong grounding of
standard of English education that were given to them in Singapore
schools.

We had wasted our tax money on them when raised them to a high
standard of O level standard and yet they deliberately regressed back
to rojak English after they left school.

I stil think these train guys should be asked to speak properly in
proper English in order to advance Singapore in speaking good
English.

I do not think that their job opprtunities will be treated unfairly
and so on as mentioend by Halimah. This was because a large percentage
of Singaporeans and foreign talents who came to Singapore have not
have at good English speaking level too.

So as they are among the majority of them, they will no lose out of
their job oppotunities from them. Halimah argument on this concern is
flawed.

By her saying, she showed she lacks in lateral thinking skill on
aspects of our long term reach on Speak good English.

She had, in fact, perpetuated that Speak good English is not god
andnot important. She is worked against our national program on Speak
good English that was initiated by LKY.

LKY did a good job on this in setting out a clear policy on "Speak
good English" after he found that a lot of English erosion had become
Singlish. .

By Halimah saying she had effectively reduced and retarded our
nation's ability to stenghten our promotion to Speak good English.
Seriously she worked as against the policy, as she was indirectly
telling her malays and indians saying them as minority will be treated
unfarily in their job opportunities.

But she did not know that other majority like the chinese would have
had also have the same problem of such job oppotunties if it was what
she worried, should these chinese had the same problem with their
English proficiency skill.

So is she a racist or a making of being racist, as Speaking good
English has nothing to do with her views and arguments.

In shot I think speak good English is a must, and evryone as to reach
O level English standard.

We cannot allowed anyone to reduce or cause to reduce by deliberate
means and efforts to a substandard level after having spent so much
tax money on raising English standard in sngapore schools. .

We cannot allow our high standard of English education in schools to
reverse or retrograde down and back to a culture of street jargons of
English mixed with dialects, and etc. In short we are going back to
our rojak English in era of the 50s 60s and 70s

She should know that Speaking good English and Writing of good English
is two different things. We are not asking them to write perfect
English, as the majority of people at all levels do not need to write
essay reports.

And so we are asking every level of people to make simple effort in
their daily lives, in speaking "Speak good English" and speak them in
a proper and correct way.

Only by this way, we can improve our English language skills among all
races and cultures of people in Singapore, - not of Singapore Singlish
but good speaking of Singapore English to England standard.

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