Re: why we should all turn vegetarian

This have been substituted by importing foreign talent. Another way of encouraging abortion?

"Polar Bear" <bear@xxxxx> wrote in message news:44b1ff88.29737453@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The >12000 abortions a yr in singapore is another form of violence. Anyone wants
to disagree?

On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:10:50 +0800, "Ventura" <someone@somewhere> wrote:

Don't have to look at the killing of animals, fishes or birds. Just take a look at the daily
human
killing in Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Afghanistan and some African nations. Vegetables are also a
form of living being. You cut off the vegetable, you are cutting off living. Even drinking water
may have microscopic virus or live form inside. The best is not to eat and drink at all.

"dd" <dd@xxxxx> wrote in message news:44b0e84c$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
yourself?

But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
fundamental right of life.


When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
certain
animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
The
meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.

Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
being
almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
hard,
it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
which
can be easily avoided.

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Body Dharma - on health
Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
was
killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
identical in man and beast.
Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
poisons
because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
apetit!

VEGETARIANISM



Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
for
vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
non-vegetarian.
Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
vegetarians.
If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.

Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
the
intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
digested
food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
digestion
has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
longest
intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
and
much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.

If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
a
secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
meditation
your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
be
unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.

Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
If
somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
and
kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
a
lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
all
these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
body
glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
has
released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
in
your body.

That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
specific
purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
when
you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
lower
plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
and
your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.

One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
more
of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
satiated.
In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
food.
Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
controller.

The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
the
stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
specific
purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
that
is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
food
is
not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
master,
and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
be
confused.

Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
be
tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
eat,
you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
the
nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
smell,
is
decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
or
not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.

Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
buffaloes
to eat ice cream. Try!

A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
needs.
The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
the
meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
will
have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.

When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
a
certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
the
two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
kingdom.

When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
the
teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
behave
like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
much
for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
You
suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
you
go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.

I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
of
a
person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
they
lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
angry.
There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
feeling
angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.


Yoga: The Alpha and Omega

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