Re: The Mighty Gospel
- From: "ardeedee" <ardeedee1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 12:10:55 +0800
Heaven is just a concept and a state of mind that you return to so earthly
means of measuring paradise is not the same as a heaven.
You cannot believe so you cannot,know God so live in limbo.
"Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Two things.....I did not intentionally talk bad
> about the idea of heaven and hell.
> I asked for proof that heaven exist in reality.
> I asked for more info about heaven. Can you
> tell me more about heaven or show proof that
> there is really heaven and hell.
> If you can, I will stop asking for them immediately.
>
> Second..... I am a realist. When I die, I will not
> go to heaven or hell.
> The real power or force (God) has designed
> the perfect resting place for me and all creatures in the
> universe when we die....To be part of the universe
> under another form of energy and matter.
>
> Our life force will end when we die, just like a candle
> light burn out with the last drop of energy(wax). It is
> final. The fluid in our body will circulate elsewhere
> perpetually,
> the matter in our body will turn into other matter,... and
> the energy that left us will turn into other form...they
> all circulate perpetually in the universe.
>
> According to physical law(law of nature) matters
> and energy cannot be destroyed but transformed.
> In this life, matter and energy have combined to form into
> 'me' and when I die, the matter and energy in me
> turn into something else.
>
> The idea of heaven in fairy tales will remain as concept or
> dream among human beings....It will not turn into reality,
> however hard foolish people will pray for it to happen.
>
> Bad boy.
>
>
> "lauhero" <lauhero@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Dont talk bad about Heaven , Bad Boy.
> > Lord Jesus will register and ban you from going to Heaven.
> >
> >
> > "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:42f56545$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Tell me a little more about heaven, if it was not
> >> a place for virgin sex as promised by some
> >> religious extremist. Sex is the favourite activities
> >> on earth, why is there no time for sex in heaven?
> >>
> >> What is so good about heaven, what do the
> >> soul do daily?
> >> How is the weather there, ...good food available,
> >> good TV program, Movies, ..golf course, casinos
> >> traffic jams, .....?
> >> What sort of currency do they use ? ...Paper money
> >> sent by their children on earth..... ?
> >> Or, do the soul just pray, and pray, and pray...and
> >> do nothing else for eternity ? Is the life the soul so
> >> monotonous ?
> >> If this is true...it is worse than the life sentence in
> >> a jail on earth.....A life time on earth vs a sentence
> >> for eternity ! How horrible !
> >>
> >> What sort of society exist in heaven, democratic or
> >> dictatorship (God), or monarchy (God is the king)
> >> ........................?
> >>
> >> You see.... the fairy tales did not elaborate much
> >> on the most important place in their teachings..Why
> >> is there a need to hide info. on heaven from us ? Is
> >> there something very bad in it ?
> >> Or is it a place that existed only in the human mind,
> >> a concept created by story tellers from the dark
> >> ages ?
> >>
> >> How much do you or anyone know about
> >> heaven ?
> >>
> >> Could you tell us more.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bad boy.
> >>
> >>
> >> "ardeedee" <ardeedee1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:42f4f09a$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Have you not heard that even the devil can quote the Bible to his own
> >>> ends
> >>> and so can he quote the Koran and these people who look to have 72
> >>> virgins
> >>> in heaven after a bomb attack must be idiots - if you are in heaven
you
> >>> have
> >>> no time for sex - there are betetr things to do and life is much
better
> >>> than
> >>> sex which is a worldly pastime.
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:42f4d86b$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> I believe, there is a power or a force (God) responsible
> >>>> for the physical laws that control the orderliness of universe,
> >>>> the millions of galaxies, the trillions of stars....
> >>>> it is also responsible for the sun rise in the morning, the
> >>>> flow of the tide and the growth of trees and animals on
> >>>> our planet.
> >>>> It is NOT interested in trivial like what clothing I wear,
> >>>> what food I eat, or with whom I will have sex tonight.
> >>>> My relationship with (God) is that I am a very, very tiny
> >>>> creature living among trillions and trillions of creatures
> >>>> in the universe...who will die in time and its body return
> >>>> back to material in the universe. (God) does not demand
> >>>> that I must worship it or knee down to it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The God in the Quran, Bible and holy books of other
> >>>> religions are merely spiritual beings in fairy tales, who
> >>>> will demand people to worship him, to bribe him with
> >>>> gifts for favour, for a place in heaven. They are nothing
> >>>> but an extension of the Sun God, fire God, water god,
> >>>> ...of our cave man ancestors. They were created out
> >>>> of the fear of the unknown.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you prove that the God of Quran exist ?
> >>>> If not, would you want to live your life according to a
> >>>> lie... when you die a martyr there is no 72 virgins
> >>>> in heaven, but the final end of your life on earth.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bad boy.
> >>>>
> >>>> "ardeedee" <ardeedee1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> news:42f46893$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >
> >>>> > LOL - you can talk the talk here and walk the walk to your grave
> >>>> > later
> >>> but
> >>>> > in your thoughts you will always know there is a greater being that
> >>>> > you
> >>>> > will
> >>>> > have to bow to.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> > news:42f45f2f$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> As a thinking person, I will choose to believe
> >>>> >> only when I am convinced that the fables in the
> >>>> >> bible are "real" and not fairy tales....only when it
> >>>> >> can be proved what the bible said is true and real.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I will not accept anything written is true until proven...
> >>>> >> even it is written more than a thousand years ago.
> >>>> >> Lies told 4,000 years ago will NOT suddenly
> >>>> >> become the truth.....Unfortunately it will remain
> >>>> >> lies for another 4,000 years (if man still exist in this
> >>>> >> world).
> >>>> >> 4,000 years ago, uncivilised man blindly believed
> >>>> >> the Sun, Fire, the Thunder, Snake, ....were Gods.
> >>>> >> Now you know better.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Sorry. I will never be a blind sheep... following
> >>>> >> the teachings as the words of God just because
> >>>> >> they are stories in a bible.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Bad boy.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> "ardeedee" <ardeedee1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> >> news:42f44be0$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Whether it was today or 4 thousand years ago the bible still
reads
> >>> like
> >>>> > a
> >>>> >> > fairy tale if you do not believe it and if you do you would
> >>>> >> > believe
> >>> it
> >>>> > now
> >>>> >> > as you would have believed it four thousand eyears ago because
> >>>> >> > belief
> >>>> >> > in
> >>>> >> > God
> >>>> >> > is a faith not a cerebral process.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> >> > news:42f448fc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> >> Yes. In the past, the unthinking masses would fearfully
> >>>> >> >> swallow what you have haughtily decreed that....
> >>>> >> >> "Either you believe the bible or not," .....but also add...
> >>>> >> >> "if you don't, your soul will burn in hell fire in eternity."
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> No. We belong to a new breed...we accept knowledge
> >>>> >> >> only on facts and sound logic. We question the idea behind
> >>>> >> >> fairy tales, and treat fables in the bible as merely the
product
> >>>> >> >> of human imagination and not as the divine words of God.
> >>>> >> >> When we cannot find proof to verify the existence of
> >>>> >> >> heaven, hell, human soul and the spiritual world, we ask others
> >>>> >> >> for answer,... until we arrive at the truth (ie either the
> >>>> >> >> spiritual exists or it is a mere biblical construct.)
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Sorry, the soul is too important an issue to be
> >>>> >> >> settled based on 'faith' alone, ....at least I will not take
> >>>> >> >> it as the truth on faith.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Bad boy.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> "lauhero" <lauhero@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> >> >> news:42f33f3d$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> >> > The logic is simple. Either u believe the Bible or
> >>>> >> >> > not. Your choice what. No need to have professor giving u all
> >>> proof
> >>>> > or
> >>>> >> >> > theory. There's no tape recorder or video cam in AD 33. Some
> >>>> >> >> > wise
> >>>> > guys
> >>>> >> >> > would scribble here and there to record the event. Some would
> >>>> >> >> > beat
> >>>> >> >> > round
> >>>> >> >> > the bush to justify what they claimed. I mean die , then
became
> >>>> >> >> > alive
> >>>> >> >> > in
> >>>> >> > 3
> >>>> >> >> > days time.
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> > "Bad boy" <badboy_sinland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> >> >> > news:42f2fb72$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> >> >> The gospel is nothing but fairy tales.
> >>>> >> >> >> Show me the truth of the most basic teaching
> >>>> >> >> >> of Christianity...the existence of a soul in
> >>>> >> >> >> human.
> >>>> >> >> >> Can you or anyone in the church verify the
> >>>> >> >> >> existence of the soul!
> >>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> Bad boy.
> >>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> "Frankie Lee" <S9641315@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>> >> >> >> news:dcs9nq$na0$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> >> >>> The Gospel of the Lord Jesus is the most wonderful thing
that
> >>> had
> >>>> >> >> >>> happened
> >>>> >> >> >>> for mankind. The way to Bliss, and for all eternal time,
> >>>> >> >> >>> truly
> >>>> > there
> >>>> >> > are
> >>>> >> >> >>> nothing could match its greatness and significance.
> >>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >> >>> Who then should get to know the Gospel, first?
> >>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >> >>> 1,The poor.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 2,The lowly and humble people.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 3,Orphans and Widows.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 4,The seeker for Truths.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 5,Immediate families of a Christian.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 6,The Jews.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 7,The sick and the diseased.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 8,The Dying fellows.
> >>>> >> >> >>> 9,Children
> >>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >> >>> The lowest priority should be for the:
> >>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >> >>> Skeptical fellows and arrogance types,
> >>>> >> >> >>> The Prideful Ones,
> >>>> >> >> >>> The gainsayers and nasty fellows,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Wicked men and women,
> >>>> >> >> >>> The Great Intellectuals,
> >>>> >> >> >>> The anti-Christ people,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Enemies of Christianity,
> >>>> >> >> >>> The wealthy people,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Islamic people,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Atheists,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Criminals,
> >>>> >> >> >>> False prophets and Mullahs,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Saddam Hussein,
> >>>> >> >> >>> Osama Bin Laden.
> >>>> >> >> >>>
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