Re: Lest I disappear



On Oct 17, 12:47 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Robert Peffers" <peffer...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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:> On Oct 17, 12:43 am, "Robert Peffers" <peffer...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:> wrote:

:>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
:>>
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:>>:>> > Scotty wrote:

:>>
:>> >> And Dos didn't support folders!
:>>
:>> > Yikes. DOS! When I saw my first real computer and witnessed the first
:>> > flashing C prompt, I knew that modern technology was not for me!
:>>
:>> > (then I was introduced to an Apple Mac)
:>>
:>> > - nil
:>>
:>> Huh! You're all Johnny & Joanna come lately.
:>>
:>> I worked on computers before MS-DOS was heard of. In fact I worked on
:>> them
:>> before CP/M was thought of.
:>>
:> Me too! I arrived at the time of IBM 370s and punch tape. Around 1975.
:> not as far back as Bob I am willing to bet.
:> I have been through IBMs,Dec-10s,Mascomp,Prime,Trash-80,Sun and Apollo
:> Worksations and finally PCs around 1998 when they became useable.
:>
:> Hardy
:>
:> **********************************************************
:>
:> The first mainframe I saw, the size of a wall, was in 1957.
:> My first course was in 1965 on the new (1964) IBM 360 mainframe.
:> At that time I considered myself an expert on the "K&E Log Log Duplex Trig
:> Slide Rule";
:> I thought that sliderule would last me a lifetime; there was computing
:> before the computer.
:> My first personal computer was a Zilog Z-80, an 8-bit machine running
:> CP/M - about 1980;
:> it had a C language compiler.
:> My next computer will be 64-bit; I wonder how high I'll go? Surgery will
:> get me there.
:> If you like adventure, try "The Soul of a New Machine", Tracy Kidder,
:> 1981 - it's the
:> story of the design of a new minicomputer.
:> I think the most fun I've had is playing with voice recognition many years
:> ago on a
:> Digital PDP machine with a real-time operating system. To read data
:> streaming from a voice
:> radio broadcast; put it through an analog to digital converter; remove
:> every fifth word using
:> double buffering; put the result though digital to analog and out to the
:> speaker and never
:> miss a beat.
:> I'm disappointed that I still don't communicate with my computer by
:> voice - I  tried
:> some years ago but it was just too time-consuming. Maybe things have
:> improved.
:> It's mind-boggling how the brain does voice recognition - I don't think
:> what the brain
:> does is remotely possible.
:>
:>
:
:Well some of you may share this story. In the very early 50s I had a spell
:working on an MOD top secret machine. This thing was built into joined,
:double aircraft hangers. There were various lean to bits sticking out the
:sides too. Anyway this thing had rack after rack of drawers. Each drawer had
:banks of boards with valves, uniselectors and PO type relays. The power for
:the twin triode valve heaters alone needed as much power as light a decent
:sized city.
:
: Now valves are rather temperature sensitive so the whole thing was
:temperature and humidity controlled. These conditions were ideal for all
:insect life and every flying or climbing thing within 5 miles ended up in
:those bloody racks. We were all equipped with a couple of small special
:tools. One end of these had a small blade like the emery boards ladies use
:for their nails. The other end had a reverse action pliers like thing. What
:you did was place these pliers things between the contact blades and press
:then apart. You placed the emery board of the other between the contacts
:gave it a couple of wipes and removed both tools. Now to the point of all
:this, you know the expression, "A bug in the program"? Well that was where
:it came from and they were real insect bugs. The expression is still used to
:this day but I wonder how many of the whiz kids ever know where that
:expression came from?
:

Damn, you must really be old, Bob, since Thomas Edison used the term
in 1878.  You were also at least a decade after the incident at the
Harvard Computation Laboratory, where a problem (a moth caught in a
relay) was 'debugged' and the moth dutifully taped into to operating
log for the computer.

--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
 man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
 all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
                                      --George Bernard Shaw

I think Bob KNEW Thomas Edison! Thats how f*** old he is!
.



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