Re: Is The Crap About To Hit The Fan?


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On Oct 3, 12:43 pm, "Robert Peffers" <peffer...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:10:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Scotty <nob...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
:
:The diameter destroyed as you increase the power follows the square
root
of
:the power, because it is an area thing,
:

Actually it's closer to cube root than square root. Blast is
spherical,

Yes, but it is Adam and while he can talk about 10 dimensions, I doubt
that
he understands more than two and 3 would be a stretch.
Semi-hemispherical to a first approximation, I think, plus reflections
etc.
so the divisor becomes closer to 10 X2=20 instead of 31.6 in the
previous
example.

but there is some surface reflection that complicates
things. Radius of blast damage (for 5 PSI blast zone) is given by:
r_blast = Y^0.33 * 0.71, where Y is yield in KT and r_blast is radius
in kilometers. That final multiplier goes up for lower pressure
regions and down for higher pressure regions. I picked 5psi because
that's the level that will take down most residential structures.

Prompt radiation scales by more than fourth root, by the way, so if
it's radiation effects you're discussing, to get radiation effects to
twice the range requires a weapon that is about 38 times bigger.

Yes, if radiation alone then the number of bombs required goes up again.

Most of the real damaging fallout is out of the air after a very short
period of time and lands relatively close to ground zero, since it
consists of irradiated dirt thrown up by the blast.

The high energy stuff decays within 5 days according to the IAEA and the
most serious damage after that is to the thyroid which can be mitigated
by
taking an iodine tablet. (from memory). All the facts are in the
Chernobyl
remediation document I pointed him to.

I suspect that Adam doesn't really want to know, preferring, as with pp
to
cling to the tired old cold war Russian > communist > left wing
psychological, propaganda war of the '60s. It's time someone told them
that
the cold war has been over for 20 years. Better not confuse the bloody
idiots with facts, pathetic really.

Like those idiots who claim that animals grazing in the electro-magnetic
radiation field produced by power transmission lines, suffer birth
defects.
The simple fact is that there is no external field because the
individual
fields of the three conductors sum to zero. Or like the old lady who
used
to put dummy plugs into the unused sockets in her home to: prevent the
electricity flowing out and running around the floor.

You guys seem not to have been around very long. Perhaps you may know a
song
named, "Blue Moon"?

The song was first recorded by The Boswell Sisters on January 15, 1935.
Since then, it has been recorded by many artist including Billie Holiday,
Frank Sinatra, Mel Torme, Vaughn Monroe, Dean Maritn, Frankie Laine &
Michel
Legrand, Tony Bennet with Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Dizzy
Gillespie,
Elvis Presley, Bob Dillan, Jeff Funk (the song performed in Grease), Rod
Stewart, Cybill Shephard, and Django Reinhardt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkLUh_zMP8&NR=1

This is the Elvis", version, but I'm not a fan and prefer other versions,
the Elvis version came first to hand.

You may ask what all this has to do with the topic of Nukes so stick
around
and I'll tell you.

When the arms race was at it's height the nations involved frightened the
shit out of each other when the Moon actually did turn Blue.
Now the reason the title of the song was chosen in 1934 was that blue is
opposite of yellow and thus the saying, "Once in a blue Moon", meant it
was
unlikely, or impossible, to happen.


Uh, a "blue moon" happens once per year....there are 13 full moons
per year and 12 months. Once per year, a month has a second full
moon...which is what "blue moon" means. I don't know why "blue" was
chosen...you could be right about that, but "blue moon" means rare,
not never.


So when the Moon did actually turn blue
the song had a sudden revival and shot up the hit parade, (Top-Twenty).
I always thought that Joe & Josephine Public knew the facts but it seems
they did not.
The World Powers were banging of these bloody things at an ever increasing
rate and an ever increasing blast tonnage.
Not only that but they banged them off on, or above, ground level.
This caused loads of dust and debris to be shot into the upper atmosphere
and it spread out in a great layer right around the upper atmosphere.
The result was the daytime Sun, and sky, had a reddish tinge while, at
night, the Moon turned blue.
However, the reason World powers had the shits was this dust was very,
very,
radioactive.
Not just that but the nuclides had half-lives of thousands of years.
So as half-life means the radioactivity halves in that time there is going
to be lots of it stuff still hanging around for a very long time indeed.
For, what goes up must come down.
Have you noticed that cancer rates have always seemed to be climbing?



Radiation levels are one possible reason for increased cancer
rates...others being more pollutants of all kinds, more chemicals
ingested and breathed in our normal activities, and the fact that
something will kill us...none of us are getting out of here
alive...and as medicine has reduced the lethality of many of the
previous "big killers", some other things have stepped up to bat.

Note: I am in no way saying atmospheric testing was good or that
radiation levels haven't risen.
Now I might agree with that but for being old enough to remember how things
were before during and after WWII. You had to have been there to know what I
mean. The term, "Auld Reekie", (Old Smokey), was coined a very long time ago
as an affectionate name for Edinburgh. Every town in the UK was every bit
as, "Rekey". I remember taking some GI friends up the Scott Monument in the
1950s. We were all with our best girls at the time. One girl that I had been
to school with, (and a bit of a girl), had lagged behind with her US
boyfriend but caught us up by the time we reached the top. It was not until
we took photos and started down that we dissolved into laughter. She wore a
white raincoat and there on each of her buttocks were the sooty hand prints
of the GI boyfriend. The walls of the stairs all the way up the inside of
the Monument were caked around 0.5" with black soot. As was every building
in the city. Beside the many buses & cars, Prince's Street Gardens has a
rail line and\ the trains burned coal. There were regular thick, green,
"Pea Soupers",(polluted Fog), so thick you could not breath or see the other
side of the street. London and the English cities were even worse. While
bronchitis was worse then lung cancer and asthma were not.

"A Foggy day in London Town", by Mel Torme -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCDZaApwV8



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