Re: PALM TREES IN SCOTLAND

Ian Smith wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:21:09 GMT
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S Viemeister wrote:
Paul C wrote:
You can go a lot further north than Galloway and see palm
trees in Scotland.

Plockton and Inverewe come to mind

Near the Royal Bank in Tongue, too.
I've even seen some in Orkney.
Ullapool too, but expect Adam to careen into this thread
muttering something about them really being big lilies and
that we are all imbeciles.
Well it's true.
Unfortunately the myth is now so well established that even
people who
really should know better continue to perpetuate it.
I'm not going to waste any more time on this one, other than
to say that
I worked as a gardener in Inverewe Gardens and there were NO
true palm
trees growing there. The trees that look like Palm trees are
in fact Trachycarpus fortunei and Cordyline australis - both
of which are tough
as old boots.

SFAICR the generally accepted European northern limit of any
of the 30
odd genera of the Palmaceae order - ie: true Palms - is just
north of Lisbon.
So the date palms in the south of France aren't real palms?
Correct.
The so-called 'date palm' is actually Phoenix dactlylifera of
the order Arecales - another lily. More closely related to the
Magnolias than to the Palms as it happens.
Anything else you want to know about trees feel free to ask -
but think yourself lucky - my charge-out rate used to be 130
quid an hour for this stuff.
Things might have changed since you were in the biz.

"Arecaceae or Palmae (also known by the name Palmaceae, which is taxonomically invalid[1]), the palm family, is a family of
flowering plants belonging to the monocot order, Arecales"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmaceae

Could it be that there *are* palm trees in Scotland?
Maybe they've been reclassified since 1999 - it does happen - but
this is scs so I'm definitely still sticking to my sources which
all say date palms and cordylines are still lillies.
As are all palms.
?
No they're not.
And the whole point was that Scotland is warm enough to support
'tropical' palms - hardy includes lilies that grow on the edge of
the south island of NZ. These do not prove anything about the
weather or Gulf Stream in Scotland.
Seeing that Gretna is at approximately the same latitude as Moscow
and Edmonton, neither known as a tropical paradise and that our dear
Sheila lives at nearly the same latitude as Stockholm and Helsinki,
I'd say it's pretty balmy in Scotland overall. Do you suppose that
everyone keeps their heaters running with their doors open?

Balmy indeed. Oor air conditioner runs the whole year roon. And we huv
tae take the coconuts doon before they hit somebdy's heid.

Did I say balmy? I meant barmy.


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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
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