Re: PALM TREES IN SCOTLAND


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S Viemeister wrote:
Paul C wrote:
You can go a lot further north than Galloway and see palm trees in
Scotland.

Plockton and Inverewe come to mind

Near the Royal Bank in Tongue, too.
I've even seen some in Orkney.
Ullapool too, but expect Adam to careen into this thread muttering
something about them really being big lilies and that we are all
imbeciles.
Well it's true.
Unfortunately the myth is now so well established that even people
who
really should know better continue to perpetuate it.
I'm not going to waste any more time on this one, other than to say
that
I worked as a gardener in Inverewe Gardens and there were NO true
palm
trees growing there. The trees that look like Palm trees are in fact
Trachycarpus fortunei and Cordyline australis - both of which are
tough
as old boots.

SFAICR the generally accepted European northern limit of any of the
30
odd genera of the Palmaceae order - ie: true Palms - is just north of
Lisbon.
So the date palms in the south of France aren't real palms?
Correct.
The so-called 'date palm' is actually Phoenix dactlylifera of the order
Arecales - another lily. More closely related to the Magnolias than to
the Palms as it happens.
Anything else you want to know about trees feel free to ask - but think
yourself lucky - my charge-out rate used to be 130 quid an hour for
this stuff.
Things might have changed since you were in the biz.

"Arecaceae or Palmae (also known by the name Palmaceae, which is
taxonomically invalid[1]), the palm family, is a family of flowering
plants belonging to the monocot order, Arecales"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmaceae

Could it be that there *are* palm trees in Scotland?

Maybe they've been reclassified since 1999 - it does happen - but this is
scs so I'm definitely still sticking to my sources which all say date
palms and cordylines are still lillies.

As are all palms.

?
No they're not.
And the whole point was that Scotland is warm enough to support 'tropical'
palms - hardy includes lilies that grow on the edge of the south island of
NZ. These do not prove anything about the weather or Gulf Stream in
Scotland.


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