Re: Usenet Provider and Webspace

Douglas Clark wrote:
Douglas Clark wrote:
"Nebulous" <jwest@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ft3dgr$1b3g$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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"Douglas Clark" <dgdclynx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:I was happy with my Supernews service from Plusnet until last week Giganews
:bought them it and this week Giganews has become the Plusnet free server.
:There are two problems for me with Giganews...
:
:1. Spam and porn. The popular newsgroups are difficult to use because of
:these articles and genuine articles can be hard to spot. This applies to
:this newsgroup and cricket, football, Internet groups etc.
:

Welcome to Usenet News. Any decent server ought to show you all the
articles posted to a newsgroup.

:2. Giganews has 4 years retention and I only have 512MB memory ...

What do these two have to do with each other?

:... so I may have
:to drop this newsgroup with its 300,000+ articles cos my PC cant cope. On
:Supernews, which was a brilliant friendly service, I had to drop
:talk.origins for similar reasons.

If your newsreader tries to read everything into RAM you have some
seriously broken software and need to get a new newsreader. I ran a
local News *server* on a box with less memory than you have now. Of
course, that was well over a decade ago, but still.

I can't imagine anyone writing software in the last half century or so
writing something to read Usenet News that would be memory limited
based on the number of articles the server retains.

What software are you using to read News and how are you receiving it?

[Sounds like you're receiving via smoke signal and employing a bunch
of folks in the back yard to inscribe all the articles on stone
tablets...]

:How long is the retention rate on
:news.individual.net? I have already upgraded my memory from 256 to 512 to
:unsuccesfully try and copy with talk.origins on Supernews so I dont think
:1MB memory will save soc.culture.scottish for me on Giganews.

'Upgraded from 256 to 512'? Good lord, what decade did you buy your
computer in?

:Maybe Plusnet
:will realise that Giganews is duff and find another free provider for me.

'Duff'? Long retention and showing all traffic are FEATURES. Again,
I cannot even imagine what sort of broken software you must be using
as a Usenet News reader...

Thanks for the response from you and Joe. My PC is 5 years old and using OE6 I am only downloading headers but 300,000 headers seems to be more than it can bear. I was wondering about upgrading to 1GB memory but the change from 256MB to 512MB couldnt save talk.origins for me.

I looked at hamster but dont see that solving the problem. I dont fancy buying a new PC with the Tied-in Vista reports and the nuisance of re-assembling the software so I will have to wait and see how things go. Cheers and thanks.

Don't subscribe to a newsgroup immediately you join a new server

On the left hand pane highlight the newsserver

In the main pane click on the button marked groups

Find the group you want and at the bottom click on the button marked go to.

This will download 300 headers

Now right-click on the name of the group on the left hand pane

One of the options is called catch-up. Select it.

Now choose one of the other groups in your list on the left hand side.

You will be asked if you want to subscribe to the group click yes.

You now have 300 headers and the server won't give you any of the thousands of old ones. When you connect now you will only get new ones.

You can also set outlook express to delete messages after a certain period. Mine are deleted 3 days after they have been read.

HTH

Neb


Thanks for the advice everyone. Using OE I download and catch up all my 53 newsgroups once a day. Only downloading new headers. But with newsgroups like scs now being around 300,000 headers in places my daily catchup has become impractical. So rather than purge the big newsgroups I will try an alternative newsreader. Forte is recommended but I am soliciting advice. I thought I had a memory problem but that clearly was incorrect. Many thanks.




I am now ok on Thunderbird. Ta.

I am going to run Thunderbird and OE in tandem for the moment cos I will try and synchronise my 50 smaller newsgroups then catchup tomorrow morning. My three enormous ones are now on Thunderbird.
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