Re: windfarm
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 01:10:26 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be "Robert
Peffers" <peffers50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote this:-
>The very fact that the power stations were built by the coal companies on
>coal company land and near large sources of water speaks for itself.
It does indeed. It speaks of the days of DC generation and
difficulty transmitting electricity very far.
>The
>exceptions were such as the stations in large cities that were built at
>docksides to make the import of coal easy for the stations Battersea and
>Leith are such examples.
Battersea was built at much the same time as the National Grid. It
is of a different era than the local stations you spoke of earlier.
>The fact is the
>power supply industry has to meet very strict times of supply as any
>outstanding peak TV watching ad break can demonstrate.
Don't try and teach me to suck eggs.
>Any power source that cannot respond as and when is not a good
>proposition,
If one was to follow that logic then that rules out nuclear power
stations, which are (to a first approximation) either on or off.
Alternatively one does not try one size fits all arguments, but
instead understands the strengths and weaknesses of different sorts
of generation. The best way to meet short term demand is not with
coal, nuclear or wind power, but rather with hydro stations running
in immediate response mode. While waiting they consume no water and
take just a little electricity from the system, but can produce full
output in a few seconds.
>The plain fact is that coal, gas and oil fired stations
>are almost exclusively built close to the shore.
So far so good.
>The future use of sea
>currents, tidal flow, wave power and off-shore wind farms should make it
>clear that the idea of a spinal power line is madness.
As mad as the electricity transmission line that currently runs
between Beauly and Denny presumably.
There are also transmission lines between the same places which take
the long way via the East Coast. The background information on the
Beauly - Denny project explains the considerations about them or the
"direct" route.
>They are NOT to connect the highland communities to a supply but
>to take the locally generated power to homes and business' in the South of
>England and they will bypass almost all of England's hills, moors and
>mountains while doing so.
Some may want a Balkanised electricity system in the UK, but not
everyone does.
>>>They were also built to export energy for economic reasons.
>>
>> Not in the Highlands.
>
>Rubbish! The hydro electric schemes have been exporting power almost from
>day one.
Yet a few paragraphs before you were claiming that the same hydro
schemes were and are to supply local demand. Sorry, you can't have
it both ways.
>In case you had not noticed Scotland is a net exporter of energy
We are certainly a net exporter of electricity. However, the reason
for this is rather foolish decisions before privatisation about
building large power stations.
>and that means we do not need extra capacity.
Balkanisation again.
>Are you totally unable to understand what is being said to you?
Excellent, more personal abuse.
>Can you actually visualise the height and bulk of those pylons?
Yes.
>Can you compare them to existing pylons?
Yes.
>The prospect is horrendous
I disagree.
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