Re: Time to liquidate Scotland and sell off her assets!


"Jackie Mulheron" <JackieMulheron@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Ian Smith" <ianinhoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "RMB" <robert.black@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Key quote
>>>> "The idea that Scotland might one day 'be a nation again' should
>>>> simply be dropped. We had our chance, when everyone else in Europe had
>>>> it, in the 19th and 20th centuries. But we calculated that the Union
>>>> and the Empire were a better bet than independence. Well, live with
>>>> it." - PROF NIALL FERGUSON
>>>
>>>
>>> There are a few gems of truth in the Professor's
>>> somewhat unbalanced snapshot of Scottish life and times.
>>>
>>> It may well be true that Scotland HAS missed the boat in
>>> terms of nation State aspiration. Often the comparison is made by
>>> Scottish Nationalists with european countries like Hollan, Belgium,
>>> Norway etc as a justification for a belief in the potential for
>>> success of such a Scotland.
>>>
>>> But I am forced to conclude that ceratinly over all of my lifetime
>>> there has been little evidence of real demand for nationhood
>>> by Scots. Contrast this with the history of Ireland where the concept
>>> of an Ireland in the UK has been roundly rejected as a vehicle in which
>>> Ireland may travel with comfort and dignity.
>>>
>>> Not so the Scots.!
>>> The Scots have in fact, been comfortable with the Union, and it is
>>> true today that Scotland is no less substantially well off than the bulk
>>> of England, with the exception of London and the Home counties
>>> which in reality may be perceived as a state within a state, having
>>> a huge population and a level of political, cultural and commercial
>>> dynamism that has never been witnessed anywhere else in the UK.
>>> I believe that that is simply..a fact.
>>>
>>> Add to this my own perception, that Devolution, admittedly a sort of
>>> benign halfway house sleight-of-hand, has at a stroke emasculated
>>> the SNP's claim to legitimacy as a vehicle for substantive realignment
>>> of Scotland position relative to the UK. One cannot either ignore
>>> the historic sea swell of Europeanism in which Scotland has been
>>> caught with just about every other European nation.
>>>
>>> Whether by accident or design, I believe that history will see the
>>> laughable parliamentary arrangements that Scotland has accepted
>>> as a guarantee that Scottish independence can never seriously be
>>> put back on the agenda.
>>>
>>> In effect...the 'baw is burst', 'oan the slates', 'ower the dyke' or
>>> any one of a hundred metaphors that indicate that 'the wheels hiv
>>> fell oaff Scotland's barra.
>>>
>>> And it Scots themselves who are substantially to blame.
>>> When people sing the songs of liberty in a British context,
>>> even in a Glasgow pub, it is Ireland's songs they sing,
>>> never Scotland's....for we have none.
>>>
>>> Glenallan
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>>
>> Sorry, Glenallan. I don't agree that Scotland has no chance or doesn't
>> deserve independence. We are a rich country, but with a large tax burden
>> towards London, the presence of which is deliberately obfuscated by those
>> in power, in order to perpetuate the arrangement. A nation of 5 million
>> can do very well in the scheme of things, but especially so, considering
>> the resources at our disposal. A breakup of the Union doesn't necessarily
>> mean a closed border either, as far as trade goes. It can be the
>> beginning of a better relationship between the former UK nations, without
>> financial dishonesty to sour things.
>>
>> However, none of that diminishes my long-held respect for your
>> intellectual musings. Keep it up, good man!
>
> But that means GlenallAn would have to actually apply some positive
> thinking and do something instead of wallowing in the mud of eternal
> depression and moaning about the state of things.
>
> I'm off to buy a Sun to see what he'll be whinging about next.
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Why are you always too late Mulherron.? Eh?
You need to learn to 'capture the moment'.

But you are just 'not up to it'
You may have noticed I am being
insulted about other things today.

Glenallan
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