Re: Something to think on.

Robert Peffers wrote:

> "Patrick MacPhuck" <jcmullen999@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1134492827.067308.275000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Robert Peffers wrote:
> >
> >> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:439e9c71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > "Ian Morrison" <iomorrison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:k3Vlf.7714.
> >> >> The problem is not with percentages, it is a matter of tipping the
> >> >> balance. After all, the only difference between us and chimpanzees is
> >> >> something like 4% of our DNA.
> >> >>
> >> >> > So you miss the point?
> >> >>
> >> >> No, you have missed the point.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I say again - if the annual total CO2 is a given
> >> >> > total and the man made bit is only 3% of that total while the annual
> >> >> > increase is greater than 3% should we not be looking at the other
> >> >> > 97%
> >> > rather
> >> >> > than the man made bit?
> >> >
> >> > Hey - I already explained all that in great detail - used at least four
> >> > words I'm sure.
> >> >
> >> > Try tipping a mercury-covered, flat surface .003% to the left and see
> >> > what
> >> > kind of **** happens.
> >>
> >> The fact is, though, both sides of any coin should be examined before
> >> spinning it and calling out heads or tails.
> >> Here are a few facts and a reference for them.
> >> http://www.neimagazine.com/storyprint.asp?sc=2028022
> >>
> >> (The nuclear industry), "has always had to incorporate its own waste
> >> management and disposal costs in prices charged", and , "Fossil fuels
> >> producers, on the other hand receive implicit subsidies as their main
> >> waste
> >> product of their generation is simply dumped".
> >
> > Bullshit!

> Read the reference I gave.

Here's an equally objective and much better-argued point of view from
the other side of this debate. It decribes how nuclear waste is being
illegally dumped in Soviet-era plants in Russia. It's a PDF document.

http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/european-rad-secret.pdf

I know you are a fan of nuclear power. I am not. If you want to talk
about both sides of the coin, read up on some of the arguments
*against* it please. Be assured I have read all the arguments for it,
from 'power too cheap to meter' onwards.

Nuclear power is unsafe, expensive and has no coherent strategy for the
disposal of its waste. There's no point in flagging up some of the
unsafe practices of the fossil industries which you are right to oppose
passionately. There's no deep mining of coal to speak of in this
country and I am not advocating a return to these bad old days.

We need a strategy for power generation which is clean, safe and
sustainable. Nuclear is not it. Far from being too cheap to meter,
nuclear has been an economic and environmental disaster. The costs
(human and financial) of disposal and safe storage of the thousands of
tons of highly radioactive wastes it has already produced, for tens of
thousands of years, cannot even be accurately estimated.

I'm glad you seem to have retreated on your presistent claims that the
waste is less radioactive than the fuel. That's a start at least.

Pat

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