Re: The NEED to Lose
- From: "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyddon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:16:07 -0500
"Glenallan" <ascb38@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyddon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> Ok, show me where I defended those actions.
>
> It is all about perception.
> Once again the US is not concerned with the crime itself,
> but only how the world will see it. Where in the half dozen
> lines you have posted, is there the remotest demonstration
> of horror or disgust for what we have been shown.
Where in the lines you wrote have you shown anything other than your own
foolishness. Had I not known about the incident, I would not have had a
clue what you were on about. We don't know how many were involved or who
they are. I'll wait until I have more specific information to make my
recriminations. I think that if a soldier does what it appears some have
done, they should be court-martialed and given jail time. I have not seen
the photos and can't find the url where they are. Have you? Or are you
just going off because of some newspaper article?
>
> Not a single word.
> All that concerns you is how I (and others) might view 'you'
> as an American as a result of these crimes.
What concerns me is that there are people in the US Army who think this is
OK and that there are those such as yourself who will paint my entire
country, society and military with the broad brush you wield.
>
> Well, you are the American here...not me.
> Your American troops are plainly out of control,
Says the man whose country's troops broke into the jail in Basra. That was
official policy and action. Whereas the photos are the action of perhaps a
dozen individual soldiers taken without authority and against the rules of
our military. Stop with the bigoted vitrol. Which is more evil; the
trading of pictures of the results of war for dirty photos or throwing a
sixteen year old into a canal and watching him drown? Your anger is too
round a thing.
>so mabe you
> as an American will search for a reason why your American
> troops are behaving so appallingly badly and with scant regard
> for decency. Do they learn this before they join for military service,
> or is it after they join. Either way you need to take a long
> hard look at it.
>
> Ask yourself the same question that Senator Kennedy has asked.
> "What does it say to the World, when they see these pictures"
> Now, maybe YOU can tell ME what it says to the world.
> Do you think it paints a better picture than I have thrown
> before your eyes.
>
> Go back and talk to your politicians in the USA.
> That is where the problem lies...not in your imagined
> perception of of a drunken Scotsman.
>
> Have you no shame.??
More than you do to post this egregious attack on an entire society based
on flimsy evidence of the purported actions of perhaps as many as a dozen
of my fellow countrymen. Sober up.
>
> Glenallan
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