Re: for MTRP and the TWINKER:

You haven't been paying attention...but then this nothing new.

Airbus has basically withdrawn the A350 because it must be re-designed due
to customer rejection.
It will take a while to decide if it can save what it has or if they will
completely re-design the whole aircraft.

Don't forget how the A350 came about. First Airbust said they weren't
concerned about the 787. After Boeing started killing Airbust's biz, Airbust
decided that maybe they should come up with something. So they basically
dressed up a pig's ear and called it a silk purse...massaged existing
designs.

So if the choice for the Russkies is between the 787 and A350, the choice is
obviously the 787. The A350 essentially doesn't exist. Not even Airbust
knows what it will be.

I'm not sure how big the Russian aircraft market is anyway. They have 140
million people now and that's projected to drop to 100 million. Still they
have to buy foriegn-made cuz Russian jetliners can't meet European and
American standards. They can go to places like Cuba and Kazakhstan though.


"captain." <spammersmustdie@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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- on one of your favorite subjects as of late:

http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=17774

Boeing Pledges $27Bln For Russia Investments


MOSCOW - U.S. planemaker Boeing is planning on sharply raising its
investments in Russia, to $27 billion over the next 30 years, the company
announced in a statement Wednesday, as it continues to spar with
arch-rival Airbus over a $3 billion contract from state-owned airline
Aeroflot.

Sergei Kravchenko, Boeing's head in Russia and the Commonwealth of
Independent States, said his firm would spend $18 billion on titanium
products, $5 billion on intellectual, engineering and service projects and
$4 billion on contracts with other Boeing divisions, according to the
statement.

Boeing says it has invested around $3 billion in Russia in the decade up
to 2005.

"We have extensive experience of investment and partnership with the best
representatives of the Russian industry," he said. "We see huge potential
in expanding this bilateral cooperation and equal partnership."

Chicago-based Boeing and its European rival Airbus are competing for a $3
billion plane order from Aeroflot, Russia's largest airline, which last
year said it would choose between Boeing's 787 Dreamliner and Airbus'
A350.

Airbus senior vice president Axel Krein said Feb. 21 that his Toulouse,
France-based company was in talks with Russian officials on $25 billion
worth of partnerships including development of new aircraft.

"This is not a reply to Airbus' $25 billion proposal," Kravchenko said.
"These are concrete plans for cooperation work we already have in Russia."

Boeing's design center in Moscow contracts out work, with 1,200 Russian
engineers helping develop wing flaps and the nose section of the planned
787 model.

Boeing planes account for 81 percent of the foreign jet fleet of the
post-Soviet CIS, including 76 percent of Russia's currently operating 97
foreign-made jets.

Apart from selling and servicing its planes, Boeing also buys titanium
parts from Russia.

In April, Boeing and Russia's VSMPO-Avisma, the world's biggest titanium
producer, formed a joint venture to supply the U.S. company with
components for its new Dreamliner jets.

Boeing has said annual orders for titanium products for its B-787
Dreamliner jets would reach about $1.5 billion in the next few years.


(Bloomberg, Reuters, SPT)




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