Re: French culture or Russian culture?


"The Black Monk" <cherniymonakh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Franceski wrote:
> > "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urjlew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:WPXFe.10690$Ie1.6169@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > > This is not forgiving. She has served her full time in jail. If you
have
> > > > some respect for the legal system, you have to let her go. She
obviously
> > > > felt that she would find such respect for laws and be safer in a
french
> > > > environment with all the weirdos, who have nothing to do with the
case,
> > > > who gave her death threats.
>
> Your seeming dismissal of Homolka's crimes matches quite well with your
> seeming dismissal of the Nazis (implicit in your preference to Nazis
> versus English/Americans in your World War II comment). Tolerance for
> evil, greater regard for abstract laws over traditional individual
> responsibility etc. is a natural consequence of the ideals of the
> French Revolution. The mentality of "Eurofaggish" (to use a term used
> by one Russian writer) open-minded tolerance for a monster like
> Homolka, deference to the legal system, etc. is just a mild, soft
> version of tolerance for gulag, shootings, etc. deemed legitimate by
> committees of public safety, chekas etc. of the world.

Of course.



>
> > > I am surprised that Canadian society has judged that she has
> > > been sufficiently punished for her crimes.
> >
> >
> > This is not accurate. Most of canadian society, in polls, judge that she
has
> > not been sufficiently punished for her crimes. But most of canadian
society
> > are not judges. This is very important in respect to abuses that have
been
> > made by various populations when their anger and wish for revenge took
> > control of their judgment.
>
> Yes, indeed. Unlike governments, particularly those inspired by
> Enlightened ideals ; )

Exactly. One of the first goals of the government is to provide social order
and prevent self-justice, for it will inevitably lead to endless fights,
vendettas, injustice and chaos.


> But your stated preference for the abstract principle above the
> concrete situation (the opposite, incidentally, of an empirical
> approach) is quite consistant and logical with your political beliefs
> and that of leftism in general. It is not a big difference between
> forgiving/releasing one person in deference to the government or legal
> system, and condemning/imprisoning another, based upon the judgement of
> a government or legal system.


No. The big difference is when you start breaking the established laws for a
particular case on arbitrary basis, you make a step through the frontier
between civilization and barbarism. After this, how can the law ensure your
own rights? By the way, isn't christianism saying that you shall not kill,
that the one without sin throw the first stone, that any authority comes
from god himself, or some things similar?

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> BM
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