Re: Izwiestia: p. Kazimierz i ska. dalekosieznie


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"Polacy zgodnie przeprosili za skandaliczne karykatury - podkresla
rosyjski dziennik "Nowyje Izwiestija". Wskazuje przy okazji na rosnaca
liczbe muzulmanów w naszym kraju."

"W Polsce - w odróznieniu od Europy Zachodniej - wojna karykaturowa
sprowokowana przez dunskich dziennikarzy, zamanifestowala wyjatkowa
jednosc polityków, uczonych i hierarchów Kosciola katolickiego. Wszyscy
zgodnie potepili obraze uczuc religijnych muzulmanów" - pisza "Nowyje
Izwiestija". Dziennik zauwaza, ze "przyjmujac w swoje szeregi
nowicjuszy, do których zalicza sie takze Polska, Unia Europejska
zobowiazala ich do wpuszczenia w latach 2006-13 znacznej liczby
imigrantów z krajów »III Swiata« (glównie muzulmanskich)".

Rozumiem wreszcie, po co to wielkie plany w budownictwie mieszkaniowym.
Biorac pod uwage te tradycyjna polska goscinnosc, wielkodusznosc oraz
przyslowiowa tolerancje moznaby te kwote rownie wielkodusznie
podwyzszyc.

K.

A moze szykuja sie nowe "Przywileje kaliskie"?

Tym razem jednak nie ma Kazimierza Wielkiego.
Jest raczej "Lech Maly" - wspierany przez "Jaroslawa Smialego"
Mysle, ze nie popelnia oni tego samego bledu jaki Kazimierz
popelnil, nadajac, potwierdzajac, a nastepnie - rozszerzajac
przywileje miejszosci etnicznej, ktore nie wiele dobrego Polsce
przyniosly.


"W 1264 roku zostaly Zydom nadane tzw. przywileje kaliskie - w 1334 roku
Kazimierz
Wielki potwierdzil te przywileje - w 1367 roku Kazimierz Wielki
rozszerzyl ..."
http://www.izrael.badacz.org/zydzi_w_polsce/dzieje.html


a pozniej to w podziekowaniu:


Jews in Poland were treated "like the blacks in Mississippi before the
civil
rights movement."


Wlasnie, niektore zydowskie rodziny musialy sie chronic przed "okropnymi"
Polakami i Litwinami wyjezdzajac dobrowolnie do Rzeszy hitlerowskiej,
by ja wspomagac swoja dobrowolna praca, kiedy ta morodowala
miliony ludzi w Europie. W tym równiez i Zydków.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/polish/worldnews/story/2004/11/041121_yadvashem_...


Commentary by Dr. Gerhard Falk

Poland

I.
In July of 2000 the Polish historian Jan Tomasz Gross published a
book
called Neighbors. The contents of this book are in no sense surprising to
the Jewish community since the author describes one of the many mass
murders
committed by the Polish population against its Jewish neighbors. This and
other documents prove in detail the Polish complicity in the Holocaust and
in the brutal persecution of Jews in Poland for centuries before and after
that German instigated nightmare.

All of this is recorded in detail in a book by Celia S. Heller called
On the Edge of Destruction in which the author summarized the treatment of
the Jewish minority by the Christian majority in Poland by writing that
the
Jews in Poland were treated "like the blacks in Mississippi before the
civil
rights movement."

While all this has been confirmed again and again by the Jewish
survivors of Polish atrocities, the current debate concerning the book by
Gross concerns his description of the mass murder of 1,600 Jews in the
village of Jedwabne in Poland on July 10, 1941. On that day a Polish mob
forced all of the Jews of that village into a barn and set the barn on
fire
after pouring kerosene over the barn. The corpses of the dead Jews were
then
robbed of their rings while the gold fillings in the teeth of the dead
Jews
were removed for additional profit. The Poles then seized all of the
Jewish
property including the homes of the slaughtered Jews. The Poles live in
these homes with impunity to this day.

All this is described in the book Neighbors by Gross. Polish reaction
to this book today has been, in the main, critical and denunciatory. The
so-called Professor Bender of the University of Lublin pretended in an
interview with a local newspaper that Gross engages in "anti-Polish"
falsehoods and that the book is "sensationalist" and "superficial". Others
called the book a series of "horror stories". The Polish "primate" or
highest placed Polish priest or Cardinal, Joseph Glemp, admitted the
massacre but said he was opposed to the Polish nation accepting
responsibility for it. Others blamed the Germans for these mass killings
although the Germans, in this instance, did not do that massacre.
Nevertheless, the German invaders did authorize Poles to murder Jews at
will, a permission which the Poles followed most assiduously.

It is of course true that the German government, and not the Poles,
set up the murder camps in Poland. It is however also true that the vast
majority of Poles were more than happy to participate in these killings
despite the fact that some Poles saved the lives of some Jews.

In fact, the Germans treated the Poles most brutally but compensated
the Poles for this brutal treatment by allowing them to murder and rob
Jews
at will.

Lest it is believed that the slaughter of Polish Jews at Jedwabne was
an isolated incident, it needs to be recalled that similar horrors were
perpetrated by Poles on their Jewish fellow citizens in numerous other
places. Most notorious among these killings was the mass murder of the
Jewish population in Kielce on July 4, 1946, long after Germany had been
defeated and there were no more German military on Polish soil. There can
be
no doubt that the Kielce slaughter was entirely a Polish undertaking.

The excuse for the slaughter of over 40 death camp survivors was the
pretense that Jews were murdering Polish children in Jewish homes. The old
"ritual murder" accusation was recently revived by the same Saudi
government
which pretends to seek peace with Israel. That accusation is of course an
insidious banality which needs neither comment nor refutation.

Participants in these murders were units of the Polish police and
army. Those who did this also organized murders of Jews in Rzeszow in 1945
and in numerous other Polish towns and cities. Therefore, the few Jews who
had returned to Poland after the German carnage also left that land of
hate
and bigotry so that there are hardly any Jews in Poland today. Remember
that
before September 1939 Poland was home to 3,300,000 Jews. Only a few
thousand
survive now.

The Polish clergy too applauded the slaughter of Jews. Priests
incited
their parishioners to attack Jews and praised the German invaders for
their
killing of Jews, which they called "a good job."

The Polish home army killed innumerable Jews. Instead of fighting the
German invaders that "army" spent almost all its time hunting and killing
Jews who had escaped the German organized "ghettos" (The word ghetto is
derived from the Italian word for an iron foundry where Jews had to live
in
medieval Venice. It may also have been derived from the Hebrew word "get",
meaning a divorce or separation.).

Because the Germans offered food to the Poles for hunting Jews and
delivering Jews to the Nazi killing machine, many Poles took advantage of
that offer and fed themselves by collecting rewards from the Nazi invaders
after capturing one or more of their Jewish fellow citizens and turning
them
over to the Gestapo (abbreviation for Geheime Staats Polizei or secret
state
police). Therefore, Poles organized "Jew hunts" which they justified by
claiming that "the Jews tormented Christ." How someone living in 1941 can
torment someone living over 1900 years earlier was not explained.

Poles also enjoyed the spectacle of seeing Jews jumping from the
burning buildings in the Warsaw ghetto during the assault on that enclave
by
the Nazi killers in 1942. Particularly popular was the sight of a Jewish
mother or father jumping to his death with a child in his arms. The Poles
applauded such sights vigorously.

II.

There are of course some signs that some Poles will yet make an
effort
to join the ethics of Western morality and renounce their long history of
hate and violence against the children of Israel.

First, there is the Polish born Pope, Karol Wojtyla or John Paul II.
Born in Krakow, he was a young seminarian during the Nazi occupation of
his
homeland. There can be no doubt that he then and there helped Jewish
families survive and that he did all he could to live by those Christian
ethics which he sought to teach others. During his papacy John Paul II has
made a considerable effort to eradicate the age-old anti Jewish bigotry
once
taught by his church. His Declaration of Prague, his visit to the
synagogue
in Rome, his visit to Israel, his repeated denunciation of anti-Judaism
(do
not use "anti-semitism" as we are not Semites) and his public sorrow at
the
Holocaust all indicate that there are of course Poles who have nothing to
do
with the common hatreds of the average Polish citizen.

Two examples of the willingness of the present Polish pope, John Paul
II, to extend love and friendship to the Jewish people are his "Request
for
Forgiveness" on December 1999 and the earlier declaration called Nostra
Aetate. The "Request for Forgiveness" says, among other things, that:
".the
Jews are out dearly beloved brothers," that "the Church draws sustenance"
from the Jews and that repentance is necessary. The text uses the Hebrew
word "teshuva" and calls on Christians to "keep a moral and religious
memory
of the injury inflicted on the Jews." The second example is the papal
declaration Nostra Aetate (in our day) which denounces bigotry against
Jews
and reminds the followers of the Polish pope that the church came from the
Jews.

On the 10th of July of last year, 100 Polish Catholic bishops
apologized to the Jews for the Jedwabne massacre.

The president of Poland, Aleksander Kwasniewski, eager to have his
country admitted to the European Union, "asked forgiveness on behalf of
his
country for crimes committed by the Polish people against the Jews during
the Holocaust."

In sum, there is an effort on the part of some Poles to recognize the
horrors inflicted on our Polish parents, grandparents and ancestors by the
Polish population of a bygone day. Such recognition in of course welcome.
It
cannot of course restore to lives the 3 million Polish Jews murdered there
between 1939 and 1945.

However, it is possible that those who are truly sorry for theses
crimes will do the one thing that an honest Baal Teshuvah can do. Support
Israel now. Those who claim they are sorry for the blood they shed have
one
more opportunity to redeem themselves. Support Israel now. That is their
only chance before they disappear from history as had the Phoenicians and
the Philistines, the Spanish Inquisitors and the Nazi hierarchy.

Shalom u'vracha.





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