Re: Czarne chmury nad swiatem


Zalek Bloom wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 00:54:05 +0100, "brat_olin" <brat_olin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

"brat_olin" <brat_olin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBloom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
"QUARK" <F12358ACCI@xxxxxxx> wrote:

P.S. Izraela tez nie bedzie.

Z tym " Izraela tez nie bedzie" to tak jak z Panskimi przepowiedniami
o upadku ceny zlota. Od 1948 roku slyszy sie przepowiednie " Izraela
nie bedzie" ale na razie istnieje. Ja to tlumacze negatywnym wplywem
ksiezyca na fale Eliotta.

Niedawno ogladalem program o powstaniu Izraela, z zydowskimi
piosenkami z tamtych lat. Te piosenki to DOKLADNIE jak
"Budujemy nowy dom", albo "Kiedy jade osiemnastka, chociaz
ciasno, etc.".
Zaryzykuje teze, ze gdyby nie Polska, to by nie bylo Izraela!

Znaczy gdyby nie Polacy!

Leszek
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Smart questions to stupid answers


Rzeczywiscie - gdyby nie Polacy o pogladach p. Slowowzwoda czy p.
Tomaszewskiego niewielu Zydow znalazlo by przyczyne aby opuscic
Polske.

Zalek

Gwoli prawdy, to byli tacy, co bardzo chcieli:

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In 1935, Gruenbaum expressed reservations about the Transfer Agreement,
regarding
it as evidence of the willingness of Jewry to accept expulsion and
thereby offer its
consent to an "exodus," as he put it. But whereas Gruenbaum opposed
the Transfer
Agreement out of concern that rulers in Eastern Europe, especially
Poland, would
consider it an exemplary way to instigate an exodus of Jews, some
favored the
Agreement for these very reasons. Margulies, manager of the
"Ha'avarah Ltd."
company in Palestine on behalf of the Anglo-Palestine Bank, was enraged
by the
irresolution of the Zionist movement concerning the Transfer Agreement.
In a
sharply worded letter to Ruppin, the head of the German desk at the
Jewish Agency,
he wrote:
For the first time, the situation that Herzl predicted - the collapse
of the
Diaspora - has come to pass, and for the first time Zionism has an
opportunity
to fulfill Herzl's vision concerning the mass liquidation of this
situation. It
must be said that the Zionist movement has not proved itself fit to
undertake
this mission. Herzlian Zionism, based on the thesis that all peoples
are
antisemitic, instructed us to prepare in advance for the exodus, so we
would be
ready when the time came. When the time came, all the Zionist movement
did
was act incensed at the fulfillment of its predictions.39
Subsequently, in 1936, Gruenbaum himself became convinced that exodus
was the
only solution to the predicament of Polish Jewry.40 Afterwards,
Gruenbaum even
denied that there was a contradiction between recognition of the
economic and
structural necessity of a Jewish departure from Poland and continued
struggle for
equal rights in Poland. With Gruenbaum's change of outlook and his
full recognition
of the need to leave Poland, his initial opposition to the Transfer
Agreement became
meaningless.
Another ardent supporter of mass Jewish emigration from Poland was the
leader of
the Revisionist movement, Vladimir Jabotinsky. In the mid-1930s,
through his
contacts with the Polish Foreign Ministry, he worked out an
"evacuation" plan in the
hope that Poland could influence the Mandatory Government to modify its
policy on
39 See Gelber II, p. 43.
40 Yizhak Gruenbaum, "Evacuation and Departure," in Yizhak
Gruenbaum, ed., The Wars of Polish
Jewry 1913-1940 (Hebrew) (Tel Aviv: "Haverim," 1941), pp. 407-425.
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Jewish immigration to Palestine.41 Jabotinsky was a staunch opponent of
the Transfer
Agreement and a leading supporter of the boycott. Importantly, the
Transfer
Agreement reflected the spirit of Mapai, which favored gradual,
controlled Jewish
immigration that took care to keep the number of immigrants and the
Yishuv's
financial resources - aliya and the economic absorption capabilities of
Palestine - in
balance. Under such circumstances, Jabotinsky's evacuation plan did
not stand a
chance. The Mandatory Government opposed mass Jewish immigration, as
did
Mapai, the ruling political power in the Yishuv. Jabotinsky interpreted
the rejection
of his evacuation plan as yet another manifestation of Mapai's
efforts to curb the aliya
of the lower-middle class, lest such immigration sabotage its plan to
build a socialist
society in Palestine.42
Just as Jabotinsky supported the evacuation plan for Polish Jewry, the
leader of the
Zionist-Revisionist party in Germany, Georg Kareski, favored the
emigration of all of
German Jewry. To accomplish this, Kareski urged world Jewry to purchase
German
goods in order to facilitate the successful emigration of Jews from
Germany.43 The
Revisionist movement in Germany and its party, the Jewish State Party,
found
themselves in an especially sensitive and complex situation. On the one
hand, the
movement had no interest in harming its relations with the authorities
and therefore
could not oppose the Transfer Agreement, as the Revisionist movement in
Poland did.
On the other hand, it was even more emphatically enjoined from
supporting the
boycott movement, because such support conflicted with the posture of
the German
authorities. Kareski even tried vainly to persuade Jabotinsky and the
Zionist
Revisionist Organization to deny the international Jewish boycott their
support.
Evidently, he managed to convince the German authorities for several
years that he
had no binding relationship with Revisionist groups outside Germany,
and this was a
major factor in his political survival. Kareski's support for mass
Jewish emigration
from Germany also coincided with the aims of the Germans, who attempted
to help
Kareski consolidate his position in the Jewish institutional
constellation - an
astounding story in its own right. From late 1937 on, the authorities
took a dimmer
41 Yaacov Shavit, Jabotinsky and the Revisionist Movement 1925-1948
(London: Frank Cass, 1988),
pp. 220ff (shavit, Jabotinsky).
42 Ibid., p. 338.
43 Francis R. Nicosia, "Revisionist Zionism in Germany (II), Georg
Kareski and the Staatszionistische
Organisation, 1933-1938," in Year Book of the Leo Baeck Institute,
XXXII (1987), pp. 231-267, 253,
259.
view of the Jewish State Party and suspected it of interrelating and
collaborating with
Jabotinsky's movement. This change in attitude eventually led to the
party's demise.

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