Re: "We Slavs are simply Homo Cro-Magnon race and that entity should not be multiplied beyond necessity."
- From: "Gary Renzetti" <lizgary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:58:20 -0400
"John Smith" <JSmith888654778@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Polacks will be Polacks.Racist dip***...
"pan Piotr Glownia" <Odrodzona-Polska.usun_zadnychreklam_usun@xxxxxxxxxx>
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My (http://home.swipnet.se/Piotr_Glownia/) Hypothesis about origins ofSlavs:
and
Origins of Slavs
1. Introduction
Unfortunately, so far scientific matter of origin of Slavs is not settled
unambiguously. Therefore on this page I desire to introduce my own
private
opinion reflecting my level of knowledge in this matter, as well as my
own
hypothesis about origin of Slavs in support from Nordics', ancient
Romans'
ancient Greeks' mythologies, what permits me in a clear way to point outmy
own roots and descent.like
2. Historical facts
A) Slavic Bulgarians years 527-565
Byzantine historiographers like Procopius of Caesarea, Jordanes and
Theophylact Simocatta in years 527-565 describe Slavic tribes invading
the
Danubian provinces of the Eastern Roman Empire from European locations
Lower Danube [Southern Romanian Lowland?], Carpathian Mountains395
[Moldavian
Highland and/or Transylvania?] and shores of Black Sea [another wondering
tribe of Kiev Poliany?].
B) Rise of Catholic Church as the only religion in Roman Empire
(313-480).
Catholic Church is a state religion in Roman Empire from year 380. In
year
is final partition of Roman Empire into the Western Roman Empire, whichfell
in year 480 and Eastern Roman Empire, which slowly was recovering and518
consolidating for 100 years to become a major power once again from year
under leadership of Justinian dynasty (518-602).only
3. Mythologies and Religions
A) Major three religious traditions of Europe.
Tradition of Non-Aryan "Old Europe" religion of Neolit age in Europe was
worship of Holy Mother.
Tradition of Semites worship of One God, Creator and it is deriving
itself
from religious tradition of Neolitic Europe.
Tradition of Indo-European worship of entire Panteon of Gods and it is
partially deriving itself from Neolitic Europe religious tradition, as itIndia.
encloses it as one of its deities. The bigger rest is obviously made in
Silesia,
All three religion traditions like examples of Slavic White Lady of
Slavic Sventovit from Pomerania and entire panteon company of Polishare
Perun
present and accounted in the pagan Slavic religious gathering. Slavonicpagan
religion today beyond any hope merged with Roman Catholic Church in socalled
Polish Roman Catholicism. That Polish Roman Catholicism existed withoutany
problems between years 966 - 1795. One is to said about modern PolishRoman
Catholic Church, it is still to great despair of German Roman Catholicsfrom
year 1795 to this very day (German Pope in 2006 expressed some concernabout
"Catholic Radio of Holy Mother Maryja heaving to do with too much withPolish
politics") uniting of all these three religious traditions under oneof
Roman
Catholic roof.
[It is quite possible that Neolitic worship of Holy Mother is the origin
the semitic religious tradition of "male God creator". Jahve Judaism andpagan
Slavic worship of Sventovit are probably the same and the one semiticreligion
just worshiped by different cultures. The different cultures meant by mereligious
precisely are the pagan Slavic culture and the pre-Egiptian Iranian
Jewish
culture of course.]
B) Norse-German Mythology
This pagan worship includes a whole pantheon of Gods and is part of
indo-european tradition. It also includes clearly worship of Holy Mother,fertility
represented by two Gods of fertility: male [Semitic point of view?]
God Freyr and female [Neolit-European point of view?] fertility Godfertility
Freya.
These Gods rule over a mythological race of minor Gods of nature and
Elves, who are dwelling in European forests, underground or even hide ingreat
waters. Elves are youthful-seeming and long-living men and women of...
beauty [But in comparison to most Germanic and Nordic people who isn'tand
beatifull?]. Germanic Elves are also an equivalent to the nymphs of Greek
Roman mythology and to the rusalki of Slavic mythology.from
C) Ancient Greeks' Mythology and Ancient Romans' Mythology
This pagan worship also includes an entire pantheon of Gods and is part
of
indo-european tradition. Worship of Holy Mother is not clearly declared
in
this religion, as worship of nature and fertility. Every aspect has even
couple of Gods protectors. Ancient Romans' worship is borrowing heavily
religion of the Ancient Greeks.Mother
Lesser goddesses Nymphs in this mythology are not associated with Holy
worship, even if they are companions, mothers and educators to the godsthe
of
Ancient Greece. Nymphs are a forest female people living in mountains,with
forests, undergrounds and even hiding in waters. Nymphs are associated
gods, who have under their govern aspects of woods like goddess of huntof
Artemis, god of prophecy Apollo, god of alcohol, trees, and even some
part
agriculture Dionysus and also countryside gods of forest, hunt andshepherding
Hermes and Pan. God Pan ["Pan God" herrgottares?] also rules over lessergods
living in mountains and forests, which is a forest male people calledfor
Panes/Satyrs. God Pan is also the teacher about arts of woods and
prophecy
all gods of Olympus able in these arts like goddess Artemis and godApollo.
God of drunkenness and for ancient Greeks also of an aspect of foreigncalled
influence Dionysos rules over lesser gods, whom are forest male people
Ipotane/Seleni. Major difference between Panes/Satyrs and Ipotane/Seleniis
such that the first are potrayed as half-man and half-goat people and theprobably
second are potrayed as half-man and half-horse people. Name Sileni
originates from Etruscan word "selvans", which means "of the woodland".Pan
together with Dionysus and drunkenness are together associated withdrink
Panes/Satyrs. All these bigger and lesser gods of Ancient Greece do not
wine like people, but only nectar (miod, mead, mied), what suppose tolesse
make
them immortal. Pan is the only god ruling that entire forest people of
gods called Nymphs and Panes/Satyrs and this Satyr-Nymph people are intheir
turn lesser gods associated with the nature and acts of human fertility.all
D) Slavic Mythology
Slavic pagan worship has minimum 3000 years of age and combines in itself
main religious traditions of Europe. Even these believed in Europe asoldest
in Europe from Neolit (end of stone age), and even from Mezolit (middleother
of
stone age) of Europe. Slavic mythology is an exceptional collection of
believes, which do not repeat themselves in such a wide content in any
European mythology. Further minimum of 3000 years of its Europeandevelopment
makes all German "allochtonic" theories about Non-European origin ofor
Slavs
about Slavic arrival into Europe in some later period then 3000 years agorubbish
after arrival to Europe of first Germanic people a total pile of lies,
and unusual nonsense. Worship of Holy Mother is very clear and quiteand
distinctive from other Slavic gods. This is worship of male "Rod", female
"Roda" or even "White Lady", who rules over nature, fertility, creation
also over Slavic family and Slavic clan.title
Rusalki in slavic mythology are forest female people of... ehem... Slavic
women.
[Further "Panowie" is customary title of Polish Clansmen/Polish Nobility.
Origin of that title begins from latin word "commes", which in Polish was
equalled with "zu-pan" and what means "prince". However with time greedy
Polish Magnates wanting uprisal and power prefered over Polish princely
"pan" lithuanian princely title "ksiaze", which derives from Russin titletradition of
"kniaz". The word "pan" itself derives from an older pagan Slavic
Poland. Title "pan" equals today with modern English "sir" and German"Herr"
or also even "von". Title "pan" however doesn't mean "ruler" in Polishnormal
language, but have Slavic meaning "equal". This makes for instance a
age-long Catholic expression "Herr Gott" and "Lord God" in Polishwhich
Catholic
fancy new-talk "Pan Bog" expressing "an equal with me, my brother God",
do not scandalize Polish priests and masses of Non-Slavic Polish, who arethe
majority of population of Poland and do not comprehend finer sides of"Ojciec
old-Polish language. Normal age-long Catholic expression in Poland is
Bog", which translates into "Father God" and "Vater Gott".]Himalaya,
E) Tibetan Buddism tradition
Tibetan Buddism is a religion and philosophy based on teachings of Buddha
OEa-kyamuni (the second Buddha in the row) and is not derived from any
European religious tradition. This religion is practicised in Tibet,
Mongolia, Asian part of Russia and north-east China.alcohol
"Shangri-la" is a mystical kingdom "behind Himalaya", which teached Asian
Buddistic tantra, which is composed of ritual sex and also combines
consumption and have some similiarity to latin-greek custom ofbacchanalia.
People in this mystical kingdom lived in tranquility. According toand
archeological research the tantra itself is older in Asia, then Buddism
originates from "Zhang_Zhung Culture", which is dated 1500BC - 1100BC,what
makes it younger from similiar to it culture in Europe called "Beaker"Zhang_Zhung
Culture", which is dated 2800BC - 1900BC. "Beaker Culture" and
Culture" have also a common neighbour according to Kurgan hypothesis byMarija
Gimbutas, or even "country man", or also "kins man"... the wanderingtribes of
Sarmatians and Scytians. European privilage of nobility to "first night"is
also some form of ritual sex resulting from old pagan traditions ofand
Europe
therefore in some sense about the same origin like tantra.in
4. Archeologic digouts
A) Pomeranian Culture 550BC-200BC
This culture become separated from Lusatian Culture and then it spread
[as
Slavic legend about three Slavic brothers Lech, Czech and Rus, who partedto
three (West, South and East) parts of the world!] over the rest ofterrains of
Lusatian Culture and as well it spread over terrains of Milograd Cultureand
Czernoles Culture. The original range is delta of river Vistula and theknown
western coast of the bay of Gdansk.
B) Milograd Culture 700BC-100BC
In this culture are traces of protobaltic and protoslavic cultures. Also
as "Pidhirtsi" culture in Ukraine. It is an iron age culture. The rangeculture
is
modern South Belarus and Northern Ukraina.
C) Chernoles Culture 750BC-200BC
There are traces of nomad-farmer Scythians culture with partial slavic
and for now it is considered the place "source" of protoslavic language.It is
formed from Zarubintsy Culture of Sarmatian/Scythian origins [Alsocultures:
Sarmats
(not Slav yet?) Anti and Sarmats-Scythians Tyverti?]. It is an iron age
culture. The range is Northen Ukraina between Dniester and Dnieper
rivers.
D) Lusatian Culture 1300BC-400BC
This is culture with traces of cultures like protoslavic, protogermanic,
tracian and ilirian. This culture derives itself from two earlier
Unetice (protolusatian) culture in the western part and Trciniec culturein
eastern part. This is late bronze and early iron ages culture. The rangeis
Eastern Germany, Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Western Ukraina.This
E) Tradition of Unetice Culture 2300BC-1600BC
That gathering of similiar to eachother cultures with traditions clearly
tighed up with Unetice Culture. These cultures are: Alderberg, Straubing,
Singen, Neckar-Ries and group of Upper-Rhine in Germany, Unterwölbling in
Austria, Hatvan i Nagrev in Hungary, Nitra i Kost'any in Slovakia and
Trzciniec in Poland. This group of culture descends from Beaker Culture.
is an ealry bronze age. The range is Germany, Poland, Czech, Austria,Hungary,
Slovakia and Western Ukraina.drinking
F) Beaker Culture 2800BC-1900BC
This culture is atypical, as not tied currently with any ethnic group by
scientists!
This culture includes cultural traces like warrior Slavic society and
of traditional Slavic drink called "miod" (pl. honey) in the EasternEurope
and "mead" or "mied" in Western Europe from bell shaped cups (like theseold
Polish drinking horns for drinking mead), as it is clear from theirornament.
This culture is example of an early Indo-European culture, which in onepart
is derived from early Corded Ware culture, but in second part it isderived
from east and central European cultures, which become "Kurganized" underand
incursions from steppe tribes from east. This culture is from late stone
early bronze ages. The range is Spain, England, East Irland, Francewithout
Central part of France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Czech, alsodirected to
African continent Southern part of Sycicili and West-North part ofSardinia.
the
G) Corded Ware culture 3200BC-1800BC
This is culture with traces of cultures like ProtoBaltic, ProtoSlavic,
ProtoGermanic, ProtoCeltic and ProtoItalic. It is also a first culture of
Germanic people, who came from Asia to Europe. This culture seems to be
in
begining dominantly non-Indo-European of Neolitic "Old Europe" origin,which
with time and new Indo-European arrivals become more and more dominantlyand
Indo-European. This culture is the only clear inheritor of Funnelbeaker
culture. This culture stretches from the late stone age, the copper age
ends in the early bronze age. The range is the most of continentalnorthern
Europe from the Rhine river on the west, to the Volga river in the east,as
including most of modern-day Germany, Denmark, Poland, the Baltic States,
Belarus, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, northern Ukraine, western Russia,
well as coastal Norway and the southern portions of Sweden and Finland.culture.
H) Funnelbeaker Culture 4000BC-1900BC
This is clearly Nonindo-European [first pure NON-ARYAN! HURRRAAAH!!!]
The Funnelbeaker culture is believed to be the origin of the genemutation
allowing
adults of Northern European descent to digest lactose. However this
is in less degree also available for all Indo-European people in Europeand
Asia and it also includes Africa's black people like Tutsi and Massaia.This
Nordic effect can be just a result of just 300 years of selectivesettlement
breading
amongst any kind of people with this genetic mutation. This culture
is characterised by single "one family" houses. This culture is soleinheritor
of Neolitic "Old Europe"'s Ertebolle culture from Danmark. This is aMegalitic
"great stone" age culture. The range is territories of modern statesalso
Netherlands, Belgium, Danmark, Southern Sweden, Northern Germany,
Northern
Poland and suprisingly down the Polish river Vistula to the area of city
Krakow, where it obviously made incursions on Lengyel culture, which was
a non-Indo-European culture of Neolitic "Old Europe", but already polutedwith
Indo-European "kurganization" cultural influences. The Lengel culturegroup
settlement is characterised by mixture of single "one family" houses and
longhouses.
I) Neolitic "Old Europe" 7000 p.n.e. - 1700 p.n.e.
This past of Europe is not well known. This is the time, when first
Indo-Europeans arrive to Europe, but there are also culturally
significant
influences from Africa (mainly in Mediterrean culture, but not only).
Ertebolle culture is a culture of Western European natives, whom were
according to archeological diggouts mixed race Cro-Magnon. This mixed
lived together and lived on hunting, fishing and gathering. WhateverFunnelbeaker
comsumption bound with agriculture showed only with arrival of
culture. The range is Southern Sweden, Danmark and Northern Germany.Spain
Other centers of Western European Natives are:
Shores of Southern England ("Windmill hill")
West-Northern France ("Armorican Megalitism" and "Reucedur")
Pireneian Mountains ("?")
Western Spain ("Lusitanian Magalithic")
Western Natives are associalised as origins for Basks. However Neolitic
also had "La Almagre Pottery" culture in South Spain in that time. TheSpain
is also place where African cultural incursions are to be found outsideare
of
Meditarrean culture's borders in Europe.
Eastern European Natives had only one centrum in Dniepr-Don area of
modern
Belarus and Northern Ukraina.
J) Capsian Culture 10000BC-6000BC
According to some Maroccan archeologists in Atlas's caves in this
cultures
to be found some characteristic traces, which can be described asin
"proto-protoSlavic".
Culture of two quite different groups of Homo Sapiens. Originally,
Maghreb
north in Atlas Mountains dwelled group of "Europeans", the Cro-Magnoidsjoined
(called also Iberomaurusians or Protomediterraneans), and to the south in
Sahara dwelled group of "Africans" (Mechta-Afalou). About 8000BC from
east
come "European" speakers of Afro-Asiatic languages such as Berber and
besides existing already "European" Cro-Magnoids. This culture has clearfrom
connetions with Kenia Capsian Culture (13000BC-8000BC). This is culture
an early stone age. The range is for its Cro-Magnoids "Europeans"Maghreb's
northern part (Maghreb is modern Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and attestedthe
in
Cyrenaica (Libya)).
K) Cro-Magnon 35000BC-10000BC
Cro-Magnoids (Iberomaurusians) are descendants of Cro-Magnon man, who is
earliest known example of the oldest modern Homo Sapiens from Europe. Itis
also species, which exclusively lived in and evolved in on terrains ofentire
European continent, which was free from icebergs. That Cro-Magnon mixedwith
Homo Neanderthalensis is archeologically proved.from
Range: Entire European continent.
L) Homo Neanderthalensis - Neanderthal 230,000BC - 10,000BC
Species of descendants of Homo Erectus that inhabited Europe and part of
Western Asia. Way of Neanderthals' life little differed from way of
family-clan living of Slavs in Poland in 1000AD with that exception that
Neanderthals did not farmed land in any way. Neanderthals' language is as
Slavic languages a nasal language and differs as Slavic languages differ
throat languages of modern Western Europeans and Hindus from India.associated
Range: Entire European continent and Western Asia.
5. European DNA
Family Tree DNA YCC classification;
Y-chromosome haplogroups;
A) Mediterean DNA.
Like Mediterean people the haplogroup I first arrived in Europe around
20,000-25,000 years ago from the Middle East. It is believed to be
with the Gravettian culture. Under Neolitic Europe their culture wasclearly
migrating from Italy and Balkans and crashing with European Cro-Magnonsthis
cultures in North migrating from Spain. Their most probable haplogroup is
haplogroup I (M170). Haplogroup I is evenly spread over Europe. However
haplogroup is in large concentrations occuring in Celtic, Croatian,is
Scandinavian, Greek [Egeians?] and Anglo-Saxon populations. Haplogroup I
native haplogroup to Europe. It is originating from haplotype F* (M89),which
is an African gene, which marks what is believed "second wave of humanare
expansion out of Africa 45000 years ago".
B) Semitic DNA.
Semites are people of haplogroup J* (J1 = M304 and J2 = M172), who today
living mostly in North Africa and Middle East, but in Neolitic Europeand
populated also according to cultural archeological findings also Balkans
Eastern Europe. M304 is a haplotype most notably found in Italians, theLemba
of Southern Africa, who have a tradition of Jewish ancestry and somegroups of
Kurds. M172 is possesed by Jews, Arabs, Kurds and other Middle-EasternItaly,
populations, but M172 is also found in large concentrations in Greece,
Turkey and Caucasus region. It is also found in India, where the subclaseJ2b2
is widespread and subclase J2a is mainly restricted to South and EastIndian
populations like Brahmins. M172 is believed of Anatolian origin and mayPolish
be
suggestive that it was originally a part of the Proto-Aryan DNA. [We
"Nobility" Slavs are proven to be the least related European people toJewish
people, what seems now to be proven by "Proto-Aryan" M172 the geneticare
fact
above any antisemitic doubt and accusation.]
C) Aryan DNA.
Haplogroup K (M9) first appeared approximately 40,000 years ago in Iran
or
southern Central Asia. Today, haplogroup K and its descendant haplogroups
the patrilineal ancestors of most of the people living in the Northernyears
Hemisphere, including most Europeans, many Indians, and almost all
Asians.
Haplogroup K is ancestor to haplogroup P.
Haplogroup P (M45) is believed to have arisen north of the Hindu Kush, in
Siberia, Kazakhstan, or Uzbekistan, approximately from 35,000 to 40,000
ago and contains the patrilineal ancestors of most Europeans and almostall of
the indigenous peoples of the both Americas. Haplogroup P is ancestor toAsia
haplogroup R. [So "white people" were "red people" before?]
Haplogroup R (M207) is believed to have occured somewhere in North West
around 30,000-35,000 years ago. Haplogroup R is ancestor toR1.
sub-haplogroup
Europe
Sub-haplogroup R1 (M173) is possessed by all existing Indo-Europeans.
Sub-haplogroup R1 parts into haplogroups R1a1 and R1b.
Haplogroup R1a1 (M17) is prevalent in Eastern European, Central Asian,
and
India's populations. Highest density of M17 in Europe occurs in Eastern
and Northern Europe. Particularly Poland and Russia are countries whereevery
second man has it. Its spread in Europe (including British Isles) isEastern
associated closely with migration movements of Vikings [Vikings are
Europeans?]. M17 is close related to haplogroup R1b.haplogroup
Haplogroup R1b (M343) is prevalent in Western Europe and due to Western
European emigration in North American and etc populations.
D) Cro-Magnon's DNA.
Today it is believed without any proof, that the members of Y-chromosome
haplogroup R1b are descendants of the Cro-Magnon. To the contrary of
historical records, which states that the member of Y-chromosome
R1b 2000 years ago still were arriving to Europe directly from Asia(Spanish).
cave
Cro-Magnon's DNA is simply not defined at the moment by scientists.
Cro-Magnon were the first documented human artists making sophisticated
paintings and that together with signs of elaborate astrological moondating.
They are native population to the European continent. They mixed evenago
with
Neanderthals, who are even an earlier group of European natives.
[A simple assumption would be that this DNA suppose to be parallell with
Y-chromosome haplogroup A and originating from Africa some 40,000 years
and not neccesarily from the same ancestors of the modern Homo SapiensSapiens
of haplogroup A. From around 10,000 years ago also mixed in some degreewith
Neanderthal DNA.]states
E) Slavs' DNA.
Today it is believed without any proof, that the members of Y-chromosome
haplogroup R1a1 are Slavs. To the contrary of historical records, which
that Slavs did not ever populated steppes of the Eastern Europe orof
steppes
Western Asia.Slavs),
Slav's DNA is simply not defined at the moment by scientists.
Already first historical Slavs according to Jordanes belonged to three
different groups of Anti (Sarmatians-Scytians & Slavs), Sclavene (Slavic
Bulgars) and Venedi (Ethruscans-Troyans & Slavs). This partition is not
different from modern partition between Slavs, Magyars (Ungro-Finns &
Ukrainians (Sarmatians-Scytians & Slavs) and Lithuanians (Balts & Slavs).It
is partition based on kinship. It is probable that one of the Slavictribes in
Poland also is one of the tribes of Vandals.Slavs
Haplogroup R1a1, which is common to Eastern Europe has to be actually
Sarmatian and Scytian DNA. Physiological appearance of all modern Slavs
in
Central-Eastern Europe have much in common with that Sarmatian and
Scytian
DNA, as we Slavs are known to mix with Sarmatians and Scytians. This also
makes a medieval claim of Polish Clansmen that we are actually Polish
and Polish Sarmatians in the same time, as historic (Slavic tribe ofand it
Upper-Dniestr Tyverti) and genetic truth. However we Slavs are not of
Sarmatian or of Scytian origin and we Slavs do not acknowledge any common
ancestors or any kinship with any pure birth Sarmatians and/or Scytians.
mtDNA Eu19 is not a patriarchal genetic marker but a matriarchal marker
more accurately locates in the very middle of Europe (East Germany,Poland,
Belarus, Czech and Slovakia) something what can be called a "femaleby
Slavic
DNA". It doesn't exist in the Western Europe [which is very strange after
these "masses" of these "Slavic slaves" supposedly taken in medieval
times
Aryans before Xth century] and it gradually disappears in countries toconcentration of
the
east and to the south from Poland. Poland has the highest 54%
mtDNA Eu19. mtDNA Eu19 is not occuring in any "steppe" West Asian and"steppe"
North India populations. Too bad luck that of these 54% of the "femaleSlavic
DNA" in Poland actually only 25% can be clearly traced to historicalPolish
Slavs, the Polish Nobility. It is conceivable that Slavic Silesians andDNA
Eastern German settlers are responsible for the other 25% of that "female
Slavic DNA" concentration in modern Poland.
[We Slavs define ourselves as "the people of the common ancestors" and
therefore it has to be possible to find with genetic tests on inheritance
these "common ancestors" of all or at least most of original Slavs.
Simple
method of obtaining that pure Slavic DNA, which would differ from Aryan
R1a1 and would be still similiar in range of spread with mtDNA Eu19 andalso
covering Western European Slavic populations would be by making a genetictest
of all Polish Clansmen, curently the most pure genetic Slavs in alldue
Europe
to a custom called "no mesalianses with lesser classes!".]European
6. Scientific theories
A) Polish Clan (Rod/Rid) Theory.
The essence of this theory is opposition of the different Slavic Eastern
European model of clan development of society to the Aryan Western
model of feudal development of society. The theory is based on archaictimes
remainders of original Slavic clans in the Eastern Europe up to medieval
and in some cases even up to modern times. Historical social-legalremoved
institutions of Russians, Bulgarians, Serbians, Polish, Czech totally
out of contexts of the medieval Aryan mass colonization of Eastern Europewere
structured into ethnically Slavic one natural entirety. This entiretysuggest
existance of an uniform and complex "ancient" code of Slavic law fromwhich
descend all ethnically Slavic medieval constitutional and legalinstitutions
in the Eastern Europe.of
The theory leans itself on popular in XIX century opinion of J. G. Herder
about different road of development of people on basis of a different way
their thinking. This theory foundation was created by a stream ofsome
articles
written by Polish historian Oswald Balzera at the end of XIX century and
begining of XX century on subject of the first historical settlements on
terrains of the Eastern Europe. Oswald Balzer sketched in his articles
ethnically different road of social development in some ethnic parts ofdirectly
Eastern European societies. This theory was formulated in full as "Polish
ancestral [pl. "rodowy" means "ancestral", pl. "ród" means "clan",
means "clan'ish"] theory" by pupils of Oswald Balzera like Przemyslawuseless
Dabkowski and Zygmunt Wojciechowski. The theory turned however totally
to the nationalists, who tried to bend it to nationalism in Poland andcover
with it also the Aryan part of "ethnically Polish" population of Polandunder
common paraply of "Slavs" together with Slavic part of "ethnicallyas
Polish"
population of Poland. Marcel Handelsman put in question "clan"
development
being in absolute contradition to "feudal" development in 1917, but hisdwellers
thoughts were not continued in newly created in 1918 state of Poland.
Arguments against that theory are comparisons with ethnically Aryan
of Eastern Europe and their Western European way of life and Roman andall
Orthodox Catholic Churches' desperate and stubborn actions of cleansing
of
traces of Slavic ethnicity in Europe (the actions, against which PolishPoland
Kingdom heroicly defended Poland for 800 years up to the Partitions of
in year 1795). This theory is being clearly contradicted with obviouslies.
and
This theory's strangulation and trampling it under foot after year 1945
in
Polish history science is credited to the contribution of the
"victorious"
"the only one and correct" ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which ideologyand
merites argumentative superiority over Polish Clan Theory can be read inbook
[2] of Jan Adamus from 1958.XXI
Resistance to this theory also shows in light such a dangerous procedure
excercised by modern Polish history scientists like defining in serious
century scientific studies Polish Volochs from Podhale, which are Aryanpeople
from Romania and Moldavia and other different ethnically Aryan groups inSlavs
Poland, as ethnic Slavs from Poland.
The only minus of this theory is not taking under consideration mixing
with other people and approach to this issue in manner of "Slavictotal
purity",
which is after example of VI century Bulgarians known to every moron as
nonsense. Also under consideration are not taken antiSlavic influences ofagainst
antiSlavic actions of Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches directed
Slavic ethnicity. And to the Catholic Churches reflection should bebrightly
stated here that, the way of reliving nature by us Slavs can not be Paganin
any way, because Romans (in Greece and in Italy), who were burningCatholics
alive and praying to Pagan Gods for centuries, were not relieving naturein
exactly the same way in their latin civilization."Spo^(3)eczen~stwo
Sources:
1. Ihnatowicz I., M^(1)czak A., Zientara B., ?arnowski J.,
Polskie od X do XX wieku", wydanie czwarte, poprawione i rozszerzone,over
"Ksi^(1)?ka i Wiedza", Warszawa 1999, ISBN: 83-05-13080-0;
2. J. Adamus, "Polska teoria rodowa", ?ódY" 1958;
3. Marcel Handelsman, "Z metodyki badan~ feudalizmu", 1917.
B) Multiregional Origin Hypothesis
This hypothesis speculates that modern Humans migrated from Africa all
the world, where they mixed with other Homo subspecies like HomoMan.
Neanderthalensis, Peking Man, Homo Erectus, Homo Floresiensis and Mungo
In result of this mix some certain differentiation has resulted amongmodern
people.biological
Discovery of a hybrid race Cro-Magnon and Homo Neanderthalensis
fossilised
child at the Abrigo do Lagar Velho rock-shelter site in Portugal in 1999
proved this hypothesis certain validity. This discovery had to be
specialy
quite annoying to critics of this hypothesis, as there are obvious
problems with giving birth to a Neanderthal child by a Cro-Magnon or Homoagainst
Sapiens Sapiens woman and such racial mixes just weren't expected. And
all odds!clearly
7. My Hypothesis about origins of Slavs
Corded Ware culture (battleaxe culture) is the culture, which is
archeologically thought to be last culture in simple way belonging to
Homo
Cro-Magnon race slowly mixing with Homo Sapiens race. This culture is the
place in Europe from where cultures of Germanics, Celtics and Slavs
are derived from. However Germanic people are of the documented originsfrom
India, Celtic-Italic people are proven genetically to have largeconcetrations
of Mediterean genes and only we Slavs are like Homo Cro-Magnon race in notheir
clear definition by scientists about our genes or relationship. Slavs in
ancestors and Homo Cro-Magnon in their inheritors are leaving much modernHomo
science to explain.
Using scientific rule of "Occam's Razor" saying
"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
"entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity"
I reach following conclusions, that we Slavs are simply entirely
different
from Homo Sapiens race even probably also in descendance a Homo
Cro-Magnon
race natively living in Europe from 35 thousends years and also
supposedly
mixed with so different from Homo Sapiens and Homo Cro-Magnon races the
Neanderthalensis race, which is also native in Europe race ofdrastically
proto-humans
from even earlier times. We Slavs differ ourselves biologically so
from Homo Sapiens, that even though we are today a mix with Meditareanwith
mutation of Homo Sapiens like Cetics and Ethruscans (Wenedi), and also
Aryan mutation of Homo Sapiens like Sarmatians and Scytians (Anti) towe
whom
even today resemble with our outlooks, the Germanic rasists during Secondand
World Wide War couldn't in any biological-genetic way position us Slavs
in
common classification at least with such Aryans like these from Caucasus
steppes of Western Asia and commited on us Slavs as "worse race ofa
slaves"
greater holocaust in scale of victims, then the one commited on just 6are
millions of Jews.
We Slavs and our Homo Cro-Magnon race left after us a clear archeological
trace in Europe during last 10,000 years clearly showing, that we Slavs
not originating in any Asia, and ice age we spend in Spain in Europe andin
Northern Magreb in Africa.Catholic
The hole, which occures in our historic existance in Europe we thank
Latin savages, who were destroying all material traces bound with ourSlavic
written language (here we were not so lucky like Incas and memory ofSlavic
written language remains only in sources of first hand witnesses of paganextremly
Slavs), pagan religion (which would be understandable), and even so
as even pre-christian non-religious customs (like Slavic clans). It isground
Catholic Church which create us Slavs as slaves from VI century without
in any greater amounts of slaves, which could be taken to slavery inSlovenia
and Northern Italy, or also during the three Catholic crusaides againstPagan
Slavs before X century in the cetral Germany. Our Slavic ancestorsany
weren't
slaves and against lies of false German-Latin and Bizantine CatholicChurches
were amongst European people a living walking half-men half-gods forancient
Pagan Europeans before X century. Catholic Church in so outstretched waywent
in its hunt on Pra-Slavs, that even picture of devil in Catholic Churchcivilization
is
modelled on Latin and Greek believes about Pra-Slavs.
However German-Latin and Bizantine Catholic Churches sliped over their
own
institutionalized falsification and their own institutionalized lie, when
quarrelsome and disobiedient prince Mieszko I Piast baptized Poland, but
"unintentionally" relinguished to bring to Poland Latin-German
and also "unintentionally" did not subordinate Polish Catholic Church anycreating
administration of Roman Catholic Church or Orthodox Catholic Church,
such a first of its kind in Europe proto-protestant Catholic Church inEurope
based on early christianity believes and on Slavic civilization and in sovery
effective way, that the most anti-Slavic Catholic attempts of CatholicRoman
Church in ereasing Polish Church's paganisms during last 200 years offoreign
occupation didn't entirely washed away from Poland our institutionalisedin
Polish Catholic Church pagan Slavic believes. Therefore Slavic tradition¿arta!
prevailed negating propaganda of Westerneuropeans and Latin people about
imputed slavery of Slavs and Asian origins of Slavs.
We Slavs are simply Homo Cro-Magnon race and that entity should not be
multiplied beyond necessity.
(my full work with all links for futher reading can be found on
http://home.swipnet.se/Piotr_Glownia/Pochodzenie_e.htm)
Piotr G³ownia, szlachcic polski koronny
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